The never ending thread

[Bad Doctor Frost]

 

Well, I pick up a '14 Outback Limited 3.6R tomorrow at noon. With the 15s just released, they made an excellent offer on this one. And it's as loaded as a Subaru could ever get, though it'll take a while to get used to the big honkin' cameras on each side of the mirror.

 

Camera's in the mirror?

 

For the adaptive cruise control and collision avoidance system. Also has a lane departure warning that I now think ALL cars should have because it beeps like crazy if you leave your lane without signaling. I'm pretty sure the adaptive cruise has cut my road rage by 25%. It's lovely.

[Krish]

After losing 60 lbs over 2 a year period from 2009 and 2011 and gaining back 10 lbs in the last 2 years, I have decided to do something about it.

 

P90X3 is a B**tch... Day 1 is done....and a long way to go.

[radi8]

Also has a lane departure warning that I now think ALL cars should have because it beeps like crazy if you leave your lane without signaling.

 

I hate that. It ruins my nap.

[TheBanker]

Haven't been around in awhile, I know, but... I close on my new home tomorrow! Woohoo!

 

 

Well, I pick up a '14 Outback Limited 3.6R tomorrow at noon. With the 15s just released, they made an excellent offer on this one. And it's as loaded as a Subaru could ever get, though it'll take a while to get used to the big honkin' cameras on each side of the mirror.

 

Awesome! I picked up a fully loaded 2014 XV Crosstrek earlier this year. Saved my flowers when Portland got slammed by a freak snowstorm in February!

Edited April 23, 2014 by TheBanker

[cashnocredit]

Haven't been around in awhile, I know, but... I close on my new home tomorrow! Woohoo!

 

 

Congratulations!

[brazen]

FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tmkats]

BRAZEN!!!!!

[brazen]

BRAZEN!!!!!

NLTS, how are you? I am so glad it is Friday. Weather is nice, so hopefully we can take the boat out. What you been up to?

[greendayfan]

Happy Moanday

[brazen]

Ugh lol

[Bad Doctor Frost]

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

[nysbadmk8]

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

Yes you are. Not all subaru engines are interference. Early 2.5 DOHC and all 2.2l are non interference. I'm guessing since you got 350k out of a subaru engine it was the 2.2... no matter what he put money into fixing it. And his time. You wrote it off. Next time sell it to a junkyard if you want it to die. I buy cars from the public all the time.

 

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[Bad Doctor Frost]

 

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

Yes you are. Not all subaru engines are interference. Early 2.5 DOHC and all 2.2l are non interference. I'm guessing since you got 350k out of a subaru engine it was the 2.2... no matter what he put money into fixing it. And his time. You wrote it off. Next time sell it to a junkyard if you want it to die. I buy cars from the public all the time.

 

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Which is why I said I'd pay for the repairs. He owns a shop, it's his job to repair cars. And not all 2.2s are freewheeling. Only ones up to late-97. Mine is a 98 with a late 97 build date. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts. I still have the title for it, I simply won't sign it over to him. He's not getting a usable car for $100.

[ICANHASMUNY?]

Geeze, It's hard when you're in love with your old car.

 

But you abandoned your car for DEAD.

 

To be CUT UP FOR PARTS.

[nysbadmk8]

 

 

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

Yes you are. Not all subaru engines are interference. Early 2.5 DOHC and all 2.2l are non interference. I'm guessing since you got 350k out of a subaru engine it was the 2.2... no matter what he put money into fixing it. And his time. You wrote it off. Next time sell it to a junkyard if you want it to die. I buy cars from the public all the time.

 

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Which is why I said I'd pay for the repairs. He owns a shop, it's his job to repair cars. And not all 2.2s are freewheeling. Only ones up to late-97. Mine is a 98 with a late 97 build date. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts. I still have the title for it, I simply won't sign it over to him. He's not getting a usable car for $100.

 

 

 

I own a salvage yard that ONLY does Subaru's.. Every 2.2L is No interference. Anywhere that said or says different doesn't have a clue.

 

I can recite Info about subaru's that I doubt the people who built them could. But neither here nor there.

 

You gave it too him, He happen to know all he had to do was throw a T-belt on it, oil, and coolant...

 

Its a 98, with 350K, It has many many many more issues coming up. So once the gas tank filler tube is fully rusted, or the 4eat finally gives up, or a Rod bearing finally fails... Then you going to give it back to him for parts again? Its worth 1000 MAX. Write it off.

Edited May 3, 2014 by nysbadmk8

[nysbadmk8]

Geeze, It's hard when you're in love with your old car.

 

But you abandoned your car for DEAD.

 

To be CUT UP FOR PARTS.

 

 

+100

 

But its nothing new, I have people who sell their cars to me all the time come back 2-3 weeks later asking to buy it back and pay double... Some have cried when I tell them its long gone, I even had a guy call the cops and tell them I stole the car and he never sold it to me.

 

That was a fun day. Lehigh valley auto task force doesnt take those accusations lightly.

[Bad Doctor Frost]

Geeze, It's hard when you're in love with your old car.

 

But you abandoned your car for DEAD.

 

To be CUT UP FOR PARTS.

I'm not in love with it. I commute 200+ miles every day. Having something crappy that I don't care about, that also gets 30mpg is more what I'm after. I gave it to him for parts. He doesn't need the title for parts. If he doesn't want to give it back to me and make some money for the repairs, that's fine. But he also won't get the title and the car will have junk status.

 

 

 

 

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

Yes you are. Not all subaru engines are interference. Early 2.5 DOHC and all 2.2l are non interference. I'm guessing since you got 350k out of a subaru engine it was the 2.2... no matter what he put money into fixing it. And his time. You wrote it off. Next time sell it to a junkyard if you want it to die. I buy cars from the public all the time.

 

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Which is why I said I'd pay for the repairs. He owns a shop, it's his job to repair cars. And not all 2.2s are freewheeling. Only ones up to late-97. Mine is a 98 with a late 97 build date. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts. I still have the title for it, I simply won't sign it over to him. He's not getting a usable car for $100.

 

 

 

I own a salvage yard that ONLY does Subaru's.. Every 2.2L is No interference. Anywhere that said or says different doesn't have a clue.

 

I can recite Info about subaru's that I doubt the people who built them could. But neither here nor there.

 

You gave it too him, He happen to know all he had to do was throw a T-belt on it, oil, and coolant...

 

Its a 98, with 350K, It hasnt many many many more issues coming up. So once the gas tank filler tube is fully rusted, or the 4eat finally gives up, or a Rod bearing finally fails... Then you going to give it back to him for parts again? Its worth 1000 MAX. Write it off.

 

I've talked to Subaru about this. Not every 2.2 is freewheeling. With all due respect, I'll take a car manufacturer's word over a junk yard owner. Funny you should mention the fuel filler neck, since I put a brand new one about a month ago. It's not that I really, really want the car back. It's that it was meant to be used as parts, and that's it. If he got it running and wants to toss the engine in another one of his 7 Subarus laying around, that's fine.

 

I guess my decision is made on this. I'll call him on Monday and offer him the money for fixing it and say he can put new tires on it. If he takes it, great. He's making some money. If not, he won't get the title he asked for.

[nysbadmk8]

 

Geeze, It's hard when you're in love with your old car.

 

But you abandoned your car for DEAD.

 

To be CUT UP FOR PARTS.

I'm not in love with it. I commute 200+ miles every day. Having something crappy that I don't care about, that also gets 30mpg is more what I'm after. I gave it to him for parts. He doesn't need the title for parts. If he doesn't want to give it back to me and make some money for the repairs, that's fine. But he also won't get the title and the car will have junk status.

 

 

 

 

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

Yes you are. Not all subaru engines are interference. Early 2.5 DOHC and all 2.2l are non interference. I'm guessing since you got 350k out of a subaru engine it was the 2.2... no matter what he put money into fixing it. And his time. You wrote it off. Next time sell it to a junkyard if you want it to die. I buy cars from the public all the time.

 

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Which is why I said I'd pay for the repairs. He owns a shop, it's his job to repair cars. And not all 2.2s are freewheeling. Only ones up to late-97. Mine is a 98 with a late 97 build date. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts. I still have the title for it, I simply won't sign it over to him. He's not getting a usable car for $100.

 

 

 

I own a salvage yard that ONLY does Subaru's.. Every 2.2L is No interference. Anywhere that said or says different doesn't have a clue.

 

I can recite Info about subaru's that I doubt the people who built them could. But neither here nor there.

 

You gave it too him, He happen to know all he had to do was throw a T-belt on it, oil, and coolant...

 

Its a 98, with 350K, It hasnt many many many more issues coming up. So once the gas tank filler tube is fully rusted, or the 4eat finally gives up, or a Rod bearing finally fails... Then you going to give it back to him for parts again? Its worth 1000 MAX. Write it off.

 

I've talked to Subaru about this. Not every 2.2 is freewheeling. With all due respect, I'll take a car manufacturer's word over a junk yard owner. Funny you should mention the fuel filler neck, since I put a brand new one about a month ago. It's not that I really, really want the car back. It's that it was meant to be used as parts, and that's it. If he got it running and wants to toss the engine in another one of his 7 Subarus laying around, that's fine.

 

I guess my decision is made on this. I'll call him on Monday and offer him the money for fixing it and say he can put new tires on it. If he takes it, great. He's making some money. If not, he won't get the title he asked for.

 

 

 

Howd taking the subaru dealers advice work out?

 

Cause I think they where wrong.. or are we discussing a Non-running car now.

[Bad Doctor Frost]

 

 

Geeze, It's hard when you're in love with your old car.

 

But you abandoned your car for DEAD.

 

To be CUT UP FOR PARTS.

I'm not in love with it. I commute 200+ miles every day. Having something crappy that I don't care about, that also gets 30mpg is more what I'm after. I gave it to him for parts. He doesn't need the title for parts. If he doesn't want to give it back to me and make some money for the repairs, that's fine. But he also won't get the title and the car will have junk status.

 

 

 

 

Moral dilemma. My old Subaru broke a T-Belt tensioner a few weeks ago. Has almost 350,000 miles, assumed bent internals since it's an interference engine. Bought new Subaru. Offered assumed-to-be toast car to a relative for parts. Today, I run into relative at a family birthday party and he asks me for the title and gives me $100. He got it running.

 

I want it back. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts, believing the engine was done for. Am I out of line for wanting to pay him for the repairs, and get it back? To sweeten the deal, I'll even buy tires from his shop since it has snows on it right now.

Yes you are. Not all subaru engines are interference. Early 2.5 DOHC and all 2.2l are non interference. I'm guessing since you got 350k out of a subaru engine it was the 2.2... no matter what he put money into fixing it. And his time. You wrote it off. Next time sell it to a junkyard if you want it to die. I buy cars from the public all the time.

 

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Which is why I said I'd pay for the repairs. He owns a shop, it's his job to repair cars. And not all 2.2s are freewheeling. Only ones up to late-97. Mine is a 98 with a late 97 build date. I didn't give it to him to use. I gave it to him for parts. I still have the title for it, I simply won't sign it over to him. He's not getting a usable car for $100.

 

 

 

I own a salvage yard that ONLY does Subaru's.. Every 2.2L is No interference. Anywhere that said or says different doesn't have a clue.

 

I can recite Info about subaru's that I doubt the people who built them could. But neither here nor there.

 

You gave it too him, He happen to know all he had to do was throw a T-belt on it, oil, and coolant...

 

Its a 98, with 350K, It hasnt many many many more issues coming up. So once the gas tank filler tube is fully rusted, or the 4eat finally gives up, or a Rod bearing finally fails... Then you going to give it back to him for parts again? Its worth 1000 MAX. Write it off.

 

I've talked to Subaru about this. Not every 2.2 is freewheeling. With all due respect, I'll take a car manufacturer's word over a junk yard owner. Funny you should mention the fuel filler neck, since I put a brand new one about a month ago. It's not that I really, really want the car back. It's that it was meant to be used as parts, and that's it. If he got it running and wants to toss the engine in another one of his 7 Subarus laying around, that's fine.

 

I guess my decision is made on this. I'll call him on Monday and offer him the money for fixing it and say he can put new tires on it. If he takes it, great. He's making some money. If not, he won't get the title he asked for.

 

 

 

Howd taking the subaru dealers advice work out?

 

Cause I think they where wrong.. or are we discussing a Non-running car now.

 

Both dealers said it was a crap-shoot. They've had 2.2s with internal damage, they've had 2.5s that didn't have any damage. Rather than spend the the money, I gave it away for parts.

 

If he's going to use it for parts, I'm OK with that. Take it. Enjoy. Anything else just isn't going to happen. I don't need another car. I have 3 already. But with how many miles I put on, I'd rather use a thrifty little rust bucket than a brand new car, or a thirsty German V8.

 

Like I said, it's more about the principle. If you're given something for parts, you use it for parts.

[Pam]

Once you give it, it's not yours to decide how it's used, really.

[NotAGreenDress]

Like I said, it's more about the principle. If you're given something for parts, you use it for parts.

 

If you're given something - it's yours, and you can do whatever you like with it. Gifts with conditions... aren't gifts. Plus, you did agree to the $100 he paid to you, correct? Legally, that sounds more like a sale than a gift. In either case, it's intended as a completed transaction resulting in transfer of property and ownership. It's fine to ask and make a offer to get the car back - but it will probably be an awkward conversation. Consider the idea that perhaps he DID use the car for parts - using some of his other cars to fix yours and vice versa. Reneging on your agreement and refusing to sign the title now just because he has the car running seems like a really nasty thing to do.

 

Anything else just isn't going to happen.

 

If that's true, and you're confident in your position... you've already made up your mind that come hell or high water he will.not.have.that.car... then where is the moral dilemma?

 

 

 

Unrelated: I wish we had more ability to edit our posts here after the fact.

[Bad Doctor Frost]

Once you give it, it's not yours to decide how it's used, really.

 

Unless, of course, the agreement says otherwise.

 

Like I said, it's more about the principle. If you're given something for parts, you use it for parts.

 

If you're given something - it's yours, and you can do whatever you like with it. Gifts with conditions... aren't gifts. Plus, you did agree to the $100 he paid to you, correct? Legally, that sounds more like a sale than a gift. In either case, it's intended as a completed transaction resulting in transfer of property and ownership. It's fine to ask and make a offer to get the car back - but it will probably be an awkward conversation. Consider the idea that perhaps he DID use the car for parts - using some of his other cars to fix yours and vice versa. Reneging on your agreement and refusing to sign the title now just because he has the car running seems like a really nasty thing to do.

 

Anything else just isn't going to happen.

 

If that's true, and you're confident in your position... you've already made up your mind that come hell or high water he will.not.have.that.car... then where is the moral dilemma?

 

 

 

Unrelated: I wish we had more ability to edit our posts here after the fact.

 

I believe it's been made crystal clear that conditions were implied. But, if I must spell it out again, it was meant to be used as parts. I can even make a diagram explaining that. Also, I'm not the one reneging on the agreement, now am I? If he was using it for its intended purpose, he wouldn't need the title. He's not getting it regardless. Furthermore, I'm not afraid of awkward conversations. It's not like it's someone in the family I'll really ever see again. Everyone else I've talked to said I'm not asking for anything unreasonable. Honestly, I'm not overly surprised that this is where the opposition is from.

[NotAGreenDress]

Everyone else I've talked to said I'm not asking for anything unreasonable.

 

That's good - then I'm apparently missing something in the story, and you should get what you want without any grief. I hope that's the case.

 

 

Honestly, I'm not overly surprised that this is where the opposition is from.

 

Can you elaborate on this?

[LKH]

Honestly, I'm not overly surprised that this is where the opposition is from.

 

Must be because this is where the common sense part comes in.

[nysbadmk8]

 

Honestly, I'm not overly surprised that this is where the opposition is from.

 

Must be because this is where the common sense part comes in.

 

Shhhhh. He only wanted to give it away if it was trash. How dare someone fix something.

 

 

If I put my vacuum cleaner out to the trash and neighbor takes it, fixes it... I'm not going to ask for it back. I GAVE it away. I don't see how there can be conditions in which you think your entitled to the item you gave away.

 

And even when you give someone a car for parts you need to sign the title over. All my cars are for "parts" and legally they all need titles for me to possess them.

 

If you give that car to someone, and don't transfer the title.. and by chance they get into an accident and harm someone... guess who they go after fiscally?

 

 

 

Multiple bone head moves here.

 

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