Wal-Mart checking IDs

[violakat03]

I went to Wal-Mart today to pick up some kitty litter for the terrors and used my Visa debit card from BOA with an imbedded picture on the card. I swiped it at the machine and when I hit "cancel" to signify a credit purchase, the cashier asked to see my card and ID - without even checking to see if the card was signed. I handed her the card and didn't say a word, but appearently she was smart enough to notice that my ID is right there on my card. Appearently this is Wally's new procedure during Christmas, or at least it was at the store I was at, as I noticed all the cashiers doing it.

 

So for those of you who hate showing your ID with credit card purchases, be prepared for your local Wally-World!

[GEORGE]

I went to Wal-Mart today to pick up some kitty litter for the terrors and used my Visa debit card from BOA with an imbedded picture on the card. I swiped it at the machine and when I hit "cancel" to signify a credit purchase, the cashier asked to see my card and ID - without even checking to see if the card was signed. I handed her the card and didn't say a word, but appearently she was smart enough to notice that my ID is right there on my card. Appearently this is Wally's new procedure during Christmas, or at least it was at the store I was at, as I noticed all the cashiers doing it.

 

So for those of you who hate showing your ID with credit card purchases, be prepared for your local Wally-World!

NOT WALMART POLICY

 

RANDOM COMPARE SIGNATURE ON SLIP WITH THE SIGNATURE ON THE BACK OF THE CARD

 

CID FOOLS AND BLANK CARDS CAN SHOW ID

 

BUT THE ID IS ALWAYS IN THE CAR

[violakat03]

I went to Wal-Mart today to pick up some kitty litter for the terrors and used my Visa debit card from BOA with an imbedded picture on the card. I swiped it at the machine and when I hit "cancel" to signify a credit purchase, the cashier asked to see my card and ID - without even checking to see if the card was signed. I handed her the card and didn't say a word, but appearently she was smart enough to notice that my ID is right there on my card. Appearently this is Wally's new procedure during Christmas, or at least it was at the store I was at, as I noticed all the cashiers doing it.

 

So for those of you who hate showing your ID with credit card purchases, be prepared for your local Wally-World!

NOT WALMART POLICY

 

RANDOM COMPARE SIGNATURE ON SLIP WITH THE SIGNATURE ON THE BACK OF THE CARD

 

CID FOOLS AND BLANK CARDS CAN SHOW ID

 

BUT THE ID IS ALWAYS IN THE CAR

 

 

She didn't even give me a chance to sign before asking to see the card and ID. Where the screen goes to "ask cashier to press credit key" is when she asked.

[GEORGE]

I went to Wal-Mart today to pick up some kitty litter for the terrors and used my Visa debit card from BOA with an imbedded picture on the card. I swiped it at the machine and when I hit "cancel" to signify a credit purchase, the cashier asked to see my card and ID - without even checking to see if the card was signed. I handed her the card and didn't say a word, but appearently she was smart enough to notice that my ID is right there on my card. Appearently this is Wally's new procedure during Christmas, or at least it was at the store I was at, as I noticed all the cashiers doing it.

 

So for those of you who hate showing your ID with credit card purchases, be prepared for your local Wally-World!

NOT WALMART POLICY

 

RANDOM COMPARE SIGNATURE ON SLIP WITH THE SIGNATURE ON THE BACK OF THE CARD

 

CID FOOLS AND BLANK CARDS CAN SHOW ID

 

BUT THE ID IS ALWAYS IN THE CAR

 

 

She didn't even give me a chance to sign before asking to see the card and ID. Where the screen goes to "ask cashier to press credit key" is when she asked.

WHEN IT SAYS "COMPARE SIGNATURE--PRESS CLEAR"

 

THEY CAN COMPARE THE SIGNATURES AT THAT TIME

 

THAT DOES NOT MEAN ASK FOR ID ON A SIGNED CREDIT CARD

 

COMPARE THE SIGNATURE ON THE BACK OF THE CARD WITH THE SIGNATURE ON THE SLIP

[genseeker]

Iwas at WalMart today and at that one I noticed the cashiers were asking to see the card. I did the self checkout and the person who was stationed at that area came over and asked to see the back of my card. They did not compare signatures, he told me he just had to verify it was signed. All I had to do was turn it around so he could see the back.

[rbenc]

I guess I don't get what the problem is with them checking ID. Not keeping or copying just looking to see if they match in names at least. As a person who had a wallet stolen and ccs used to make purchase I WISH someone had checked. One reason I don't sign mine is because then all I am doing is showing them how I sign my name, which includes using my middle initial. If they don't know that they have to guess and should I have to dispute the charge it would help somewhat. Same thing for my checks. They dont SHOW my middle name or initial, but on my bank signature card, it includes the initial.

 

I do not relinquish it to those wanting to copy it or anything, but showing it is not a big deal to me. I have noticed that many checkers only give it such a cursory look anyway, they just do it because they have been tr ained to do so to keep the bosses watching off their backs.

[GEORGE]

I guess I don't get what the problem is with them checking ID. Not keeping or copying just looking to see if they match in names at least. As a person who had a wallet stolen and ccs used to make purchase I WISH someone had checked. One reason I don't sign mine is because then all I am doing is showing them how I sign my name, which includes using my middle initial. If they don't know that they have to guess and should I have to dispute the charge it would help somewhat. Same thing for my checks. They dont SHOW my middle name or initial, but on my bank signature card, it includes the initial.

 

I do not relinquish it to those wanting to copy it or anything, but showing it is not a big deal to me. I have noticed that many checkers only give it such a cursory look anyway, they just do it because they have been tr ained to do so to keep the bosses watching off their backs.

IF YOU FEEL FAR SUPERIOR BY SHOWING YOUR ID...GO RIGHT AHEAD

 

Edited December 2, 2006 by GEORGE

[rbenc]

Superior!?!

 

Just NoT paranoid. They are not copying it or keeping it..and I would bet most store checkers do not have a photographic memory! Having investigated crimes where credit cards and checks were used/forged it sure makes catching/putting people in jail for doing so a lot easier.

 

Like I asked at first...what is the real problem with it?

 

Seems a little odd to me is all!

[GEORGE]

Superior!?!

 

Just NoT paranoid. They are not copying it or keeping it..and I would bet most store checkers do not have a photographic memory! Having investigated crimes where credit cards and checks were used/forged it sure makes catching/putting people in jail for doing so a lot easier.

 

Like I asked at first...what is the real problem with it?

 

Seems a little odd to me is all!

YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN

[GEORGE]

VIOLATION OF CREDIT CARD POLICY IS THE FIRST ISSUE

 

ASKING FOR ID (as a condition of the sale) ON A SIGNED CREDIT CARD IS FORBIDDEN BY CREDIT CARD POLICY

[GEORGE]

SHEEP GO BAHHH

[rbenc]

I hope so! Learning WORTHWHILE information throughout the life journey is important! Was I suppossed to be learing something from a post about stores checking your id in an effort to help hold the line on forgeries and thefts?

 

I do not presume to know everything or for that fact most things. I do however know that paranoia over something as trivial as this is not healthy!

 

So please feel free to "do me some learning" as to why this is so terrible! I am not worried about MC/VISA policy in this case. Now as to the required minimum purchase..that does lemonade me off, ut you know what I just don't go to those places if know they exist.

 

I eagerly await the sharing of your knowledge in this arena!

[GEORGE]

There is a club here that would SHOW ID AT THE DROP OF A HAT

 

Join them...

 

FOR MY PROTECTION...I DON'T SHOW ID

[rbenc]

Wow! You seem to have IMPORTANT input on almost all of the threads here. How do you find the time?

 

I really don't consider myself a "sheeople" as I like to call them, nor would anyone who knows me. I do consider myself to not be "overly" concerned with "protecting" myself from !?!? Do the voices tell you to do that?

 

Actually I think the rational mind would come to the logical conclusion that "protecting" you is just what a store might be doing when they ask to verify that the person showing the card is the person authorized to use the card. Mind you I did not suggest they can write down the information...just verify that things appear to match.

 

How would that leave you unprotected?

 

Remember...Master...just because Grasshopper is new to the city...does not mean he has not seen the world and is devoid of knowledge.

 

Were you one of those people who had a stack of gold bars and food for twenty years stored away for the whole Y2K thing? I'm thinking..................................

Edited December 2, 2006 by rbenc

[hegemony]

Wow! You seem to have IMPORTANT input on almost all of the threads here. How do you find the time?

 

I really don't consider myself a "sheeople" as I like to call them, nor would anyone who knows me. I do consider myself to not be "overly" concerned with "protecting" myself from !?!? Do the voices tell you to do that?

 

Actually I think the rational mind would come to the logical conclusion that "protecting" you is just what a store might be doing when they ask to verify that the person showing the card is the person authorized to use the card. Mind you I did not suggest they can write down the information...just verify that things appear to match.

 

How would that leave you unprotected?

 

Remember...Master...just because Grasshopper is new to the city...does not mean he has not seen the world and is devoid of knowledge.

 

Were you one of those people who had a stack of gold bars and food for twenty years stored away for the whole Y2K thing? I'm thinking..................................

I like gold bars.

 

and I don't show ID.

 

but I also think "sheeple" is insulting, especially to new posters. but then that is just my opinion.

[rbenc]

SHEEP GO BAHHH

 

 

In case you missed it the "sheeople" was in response to it being suggested that I was one. How could that be offensive to anyone, unless they consider themselves to maybe be in that category. By implication pr inference it refers to those who blindly follow along, as sheep are prone to do...even if it runs them right off of the cliff!

 

Never suggested GOLD was not a good thing to own or invest in. Just that there were many who believed that chaos would reign supreme at the stroke of midnight Y2K. In mind many of these people also tend to be conspiracy theorist etc... It is a weak argument that one refuses to show ID when using a credit card to purchase something. It seems to me that it flies in the face of logic. You HAVE in fact provided them a card with a number, that when checked properly in various data bases can reveal far more about a person than a state issued drivers license or ID card.

 

Sorry, I just don't get what the BIG deal is about...which is all I asked at first, in case I had missed out on some previously disclosed information about the practice. Once, I asked I was told that I had " A LOT TO LEARN" so I am waiting to be schooled with some rational teaching!

 

No offense intended to anyone by a silly comment about "sheeople" I just don't tend to follow anyone blindly including here. There is little difference as to the breed of "sheeople" regardless of where they are bred!

[hegemony]

SHEEP GO BAHHH

 

 

In case you missed it the "sheeople" was in response to it being suggested that I was one. How could that be offensive to anyone, unless they consider themselves to maybe be in that category. By implication pr inference it refers to those who blindly follow along, as sheep are prone to do...even if it runs them right off of the cliff!

 

Never suggested GOLD was not a good thing to own or invest in. Just that there were many who believed that chaos would reign supreme at the stroke of midnight Y2K. In mind many of these people also tend to be conspiracy theorist etc... It is a weak argument that one refuses to show ID when using a credit card to purchase something. It seems to me that it flies in the face of logic. You HAVE in fact provided them a card with a number, that when checked properly in various data bases can reveal far more about a person than a state issued drivers license or ID card.

 

Sorry, I just don't get what the BIG deal is about...which is all I asked at first, in case I had missed out on some previously disclosed information about the practice. Once, I asked I was told that I had " A LOT TO LEARN" so I am waiting to be schooled with some rational teaching!

 

No offense intended to anyone by a silly comment about "sheeople" I just don't tend to follow anyone blindly including here. There is little difference as to the breed of "sheeople" regardless of where they are bred!

ummm. I was defending you. the sheeple and BAAAHHH comments by some people is offensive in my view.

Edited December 2, 2006 by hegemony

[rbenc]

Cool! I was not sure. Should have checked first. My Bad, as the young ones say! Edited December 2, 2006 by rbenc

[Seabee]

Wow! You seem to have IMPORTANT input on almost all of the threads here. How do you find the time?

 

I really don't consider myself a "sheeople" as I like to call them, nor would anyone who knows me. I do consider myself to not be "overly" concerned with "protecting" myself from !?!? Do the voices tell you to do that?

 

Actually I think the rational mind would come to the logical conclusion that "protecting" you is just what a store might be doing when they ask to verify that the person showing the card is the person authorized to use the card. Mind you I did not suggest they can write down the information...just verify that things appear to match.

 

How would that leave you unprotected?

 

Remember...Master...just because Grasshopper is new to the city...does not mean he has not seen the world and is devoid of knowledge.

 

Were you one of those people who had a stack of gold bars and food for twenty years stored away for the whole Y2K thing? I'm thinking..................................

 

I hate to tell you this, but protecting the consumer is not the reason most merchants check ID. They are only interested in trying to protect themselves against chargebacks. They can do that just as well by following the rules they agreed to when they agreed to accept credit cards.

[rbenc]

I hate to tell you this, but protecting the consumer is not the reason most merchants check ID. They are only interested in trying to protect themselves against chargebacks. They can do that just as well by following the rules they agreed to when they agreed to accept credit cards.

 

 

Thank you and I hate to tell you this. Regardless of whom THEY claim it is for... by protecting themselves....they also end up protecting the consumer as well in many cases! You cannot do one with out the other!

 

There is still no VALID reason that has been provided as far as I can see, that explains WHY this simple step is such a big problem for some people! Fear and loathing, of the governement and corporate big brother is what it seems to me.

 

I still ask the question; How is it "protecting" privacy by not showing an id when you make a purchase or write a check etc ?

 

I state ad infinitum.........I am not suggesting they have the right or need to document the info or use it as a back up to collect a charge for a bad check. Just to see that the names match and maybe a picture id.

 

Having been in law enforcement for 30 years, I can tell you that the VAST majority of forgers and "un authorized credit card abusers" are not the ones you see in the movies, with all the fancy fake id making capabilties. They are for the most part lower level crooks who got lucky during a robbery or burglary of a car or home and ended up with someone's card. They then go out and try to use the cards as fast as they can before they are discovered missing "with the hopes" of no checker bothering to look at other id, which of course they don't have.

 

Actually was a victim of tha myself on vacation once. They burned the cards up within the first two hours some with signed slips and many on the ones where they just slide the cards and never relinquish it.

[RacieRacer]

This is in re: WM asking to see receipts when exiting. For me (and I'm sure many others like me), it is just very simply because it is a hassle to me. It's a PITA. I have no fear of conspiracy theory's or Big Bro. It's just a hassle plain and simple. Last time I was at WM the guy asked to see my receipt, I smiled and politely said "no that's O.K." and walked out. The dude just stood there and looked at me, wide eyed & jaw-dropped, dumbfounded......speechless.

[soldiergurl74]

If VISA/ MC doesn't see any value to ID checking, then why do they make cards with pictures right on them???

[rbenc]

This is in re: WM asking to see receipts when exiting. For me (and I'm sure many others like me), it is just very simply because it is a hassle to me. It's a PITA. I have no fear of conspiracy theory's or Big Bro. It's just a hassle plain and simple. Last time I was at WM the guy asked to see my receipt, I smiled and politely said "no that's O.K." and walked out. The dude just stood there and looked at me, wide eyed & jaw-dropped, dumbfounded......speechless.

 

 

I don't think that is what this thread was about, but I will speak to that issue.

 

I AM NOT A HUGE FAN of Wal-Mart nor any other company, however I know that they have every legal right to verify that those leaving their store have in fact paid for what they are leaving with.

 

They have a huge loss volume in their stores and some, depending on location, are worse than others. This is somewhat enahanced by the design of their stores, which leaves plenty of room for customers to mill about past the point of checkout. You will noticed that is not the case with most grocery stores, as the checker lines ususally end near the door.

 

 

Is it frustrating or a "hassle" to some consumers!?! Most likely but imagine the losses if they did not HAVE THE RIGHT TO and did not station people at the doors. The loss from theft only adds cost to the rest of us, so I don't mind them checking.

 

I guess if you don't like their system...simply do not shop there or expect to be legally challenged when you refuse to show them a receipt for proof of purchase. To do other wise is just plain old SILLY! I bet you would have been screaming all sort of things about ILLEGAL detention if they had simply said..please come with us so we can insure you have paid for your items. I can assure you the policeand attorneys will tell you they are well within their rights to do this. If they do it as a practice to everyone coming and going and do not base it soley on race or ethnicity then there is NOT a legal issue involved.

 

Sound to me like just being a PIA is status qou for some people.

[rbenc]

If VISA/ MC doesn't see any value to ID checking, then why do they make cards with pictures right on them???

 

Good Point!

[GEORGE]

I hate to tell you this, but protecting the consumer is not the reason most merchants check ID. They are only interested in trying to protect themselves against chargebacks. They can do that just as well by following the rules they agreed to when they agreed to accept credit cards.

 

 

Thank you and I hate to tell you this. Regardless of whom THEY claim it is for... by protecting themselves....they also end up protecting the consumer as well in many cases! You cannot do one with out the other!

 

There is still no VALID reason that has been provided as far as I can see, that explains WHY this simple step is such a big problem for some people! Fear and loathing, of the governement and corporate big brother is what it seems to me.

 

I still ask the question; How is it "protecting" privacy by not showing an id when you make a purchase or write a check etc ?

 

I state ad infinitum.........I am not suggesting they have the right or need to document the info or use it as a back up to collect a charge for a bad check. Just to see that the names match and maybe a picture id.

 

Having been in law enforcement for 30 years, I can tell you that the VAST majority of forgers and "un authorized credit card abusers" are not the ones you see in the movies, with all the fancy fake id making capabilties. They are for the most part lower level crooks who got lucky during a robbery or burglary of a car or home and ended up with someone's card. They then go out and try to use the cards as fast as they can before they are discovered missing "with the hopes" of no checker bothering to look at other id, which of course they don't have.

 

Actually was a victim of tha myself on vacation once. They burned the cards up within the first two hours some with signed slips and many on the ones where they just slide the cards and never relinquish it.

A CHECK AT RETAIL???

 

THAT IS SO LAST CENTURY (LIKE THE 1980's maybe 1990's)