The Geography of ID

[Continental]

every place that I've reported has stopped doing it.

Every merchant I've reported no longer asks for ID either. It's made a big difference!

 

Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.

 

Never show ID for signed credit cards purchases.

 

No ID required for signed credit card purchases.

[thelowpriceleader]

I think we all enjoy making a difference in these merchants being properly informed by reporting them for wanting ID. Some of these cashiers and store managers seem to get really put off that they cannot ask for ID. These remind me of store employees who act as if when a customer presents a coupon that the value of the coupon is coming out of their own pocket (when more often than not it is paid for by the manufacturer -- not even the store).

 

My favorite was a cashier who I handed my card front side up and proceeded to look at the front of my card, and said to me:

 

Ms./Mr. Leader may I see some ID?

 

Though I felt like asking this person why they were addressing me by name and then asking me to "show my paper(s)" I simply complied with the request and then spoke with management at this facility later via telephone. Though I did not explicitly name this employee when I contacted the management, I was given a response along the lines of "it is not our policy to require ID and I will review this with all of my cashiers." That is good. I hate to get any specific employee in trouble. A retraining of the entire crew is much more effective, anyway.

[Continental]

I think we all enjoy making a difference in these merchants being properly informed by reporting them for wanting ID.

Once you've been violated, the joy of being able to again shop freely at a previously violating store is indescribable.

[Continental]

I haven't been asked for ID in a major retail store for at least two years.

This ID nonsense has thankfully been declining rapidly in recent years as more and more people become educated and return to basic common sense.

[Grizzly Bear]

You really think so? I hope you're right but it seems to me that ID requests have been increasing. So many businesses see other businesses doing it and therefore assume that they can do it.

[green2408]

You really think so? I hope you're right but it seems to me that ID requests have been increasing. So many businesses see other businesses doing it and therefore assume that they can do it.

 

 

Really? It seems that here I almost never run into it anymore. I have reported a LOT of stores in the past year and I'm assuming that it's had an effect.

That doesn't mean in three months some new manager somewhere won't get the bright idea of what a fantastic thing it would be to try and prevent unauthorized credit card use by having every single person ID'd for every single transaction.

Edited November 29, 2008 by green2408

[Grizzly Bear]

I tend to avoid going in stores anymore because I dread the conflict. That said, my wife was carded several times in the past week.

[GEORGE]

"I HAVE THE CREDIT CARD POLICY--WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU AGREED TO"

[Grizzly Bear]

Usually at that point they're (managers) are a bit stunned and then tell you that they were told to have that policy from higher up in the food chain. Nothing will change until you report them and then just maybe their processor will follow through. Just as an example, the Wachovia Center box office in Philly still has on their website that they require two forms of ID, this after at least 2 years and I have reported them twice!!!!!

Edited November 29, 2008 by Grizzly Bear

[webworm98]

Usually at that point they're (managers) are a bit stunned and then tell you that they were told to have that policy from higher up in the food chain. Nothing will change until you report them and then just maybe their processor will follow through. Just as an example, the Wachovia Center box office in Philly still has on their website that they require two forms of ID, this after at least 2 years and I have reported them twice!!!!!

 

 

2 IDS? What other forum of ID?

[Continental]

I would suggest starting with places you visit often. If you go there once a week or more, work on those places first. Then you can work on the places you visit with less frequency. I've reported so many places in my area over the past year or so that now hardly any places I do business with are asking for ID anymore. And on the rare occasion I visit one, I now easily report them.

[Continental]

Are you familiar with the broken window theory? Sociological research suggests that non-enforcement of minor violations of laws or rules encourages further violations from others, resulting in a viscous cycle that continues to breed breaches of what is defined as acceptable behavior.

 

This isn't esoteric stuff. People are more likely to litter if a city does not respond to a litter problem with cleaning and enforcement. The mere presence of litter is likely to breed more litter, as those who are not inherently inclined to litter feel that they aren't creating a problem that doesn't already exist.

 

Anecdotal evidence presented in this forum suggests that violations tend to cluster. Certain cities, and even certain sections of cities, have a high concentration of violating merchants. Although correlation is not causation, the argument that violations breed violations does have merit.

[Uncle Leo]

Who, or what, are you quoting?

[Continental]

It seems that here I almost never run into it anymore. I have reported a LOT of stores in the past year and I'm assuming that it's had an effect.

To report, simply call 1-800-VISA-911, press zero twice, and ask to file an "incident report" regarding a merchant violation/merchant who required ID. Crooked merchants shape-up quickly to avoid suspension. Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.

[Credit Savvy]

You really think so? I hope you're right but it seems to me that ID requests have been increasing. So many businesses see other businesses doing it and therefore assume that they can do it.

…which is why education is crucial. This ID nonsense should be a long-extinct, non-issue today much like separate entrances, separate drinking fountains, etc.. Any violating merchant must be eliminated - 1-800-VISA-911.