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PEOPLE ARE STUPID: COVID-19 EDITION

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LA now requiring face masks when outside of your home. 

 

Economic damage keeps pouring in. A big state (California) budget deficit, and locally SF letting residents know this will be bad.

 

Mayor London Breed said the city has taken a “significant economic hit.” She said more than 100,000 residents are applying for unemployment.

“We are in for a long hard road,” she said in a statement. “This is going to require a lot of tough choices and creative solutions.”

 

 

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1 hour ago, butterflywings said:

Am I the only person on here who didn't know you could catch Covid through your eyes? I haven't heard anyone in authority mentioning that as a possibility until I saw the Today Show this morning. I wonder if people will start wearing goggles when they go out, or maybe that is a bridge too far....

 

 

It was initially thought COVID was strictly a lung disease. But there is now evidence it also can attack other organs, particularly the gastro-intestinal system. How that gets infected isn't clear. The stomach is usually pretty good at inactivating stuff. Eyes have ducts that regularly transport material to the back of the nose/throat. COVID likes to latch onto cells that have ACE2 receptors and those are found in the lungs, gut, and other places. I don't know if the eyes are receptive to direct attack or the tear ducts form the pathway for infection.

 

A lot of unknowns with the beast. I've seen research that N95 respirators have proven quite effective at reducing exposure to health care workers where there is a lot of aerosoled virus. Shields are sometimes used in addition but I think the current belief is that transmission through the eyes is not a principal mechanism.

 

But it's all statistics. Wife and I used to shop together. Now it's one or the other but not both and less frequently. And we don't dawdle. No guarantees but it reduces risk significantly. Kinda like seatbelts. They just reduce the risk of dying in any given crash. But no guarantees. It's the nature of life. No absolutes. One makes tradeoffs based on risk assessments.

 

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7 minutes ago, cashnocredit said:

......But it's all statistics. Wife and I used to shop together. Now it's one or the other but not both and less frequently. And we don't dawdle.....

 

 

It is getting better compared to early April when at that time, fear was dominant. At least what I have seen are couples shopping together and overall attitudes are getting better. But that said, people are still in no mood to just walk around or be casual, it is to get business done and leave ASAP.

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, NorCalR1 said:

 

It is getting better compared to early April when at that time, fear was dominant. At least what I have seen are couples shopping together and overall attitudes are getting better. But that said, people are still in no mood to just walk around or be casual, it is to get business done and leave ASAP.

 

 

 

 

The last time we went out to eat was in the first few days of March. Figured the risks were minimal and it might be a while before we could do that again. Turned out to be the case.

 

Deaths are a trailing indicator. Probably by about 4 weeks after the related infection rates/risks. So now things are a bit lower than a month ago in many places. How that plays out in the immediate future depends on a lot of factors that are likely state and location specific.

 

At our age we are roughly in the 2.5 to 5% risk of death category if we get the bug. Enough to be of some concern but we really are mostly homebodies and live in a relatively rural, isolated area. So we aren't too concerned. OTOH, I'd rather be 35 y/o where the fatality rate is more than an order of magnitude lower.

 

But all in all we are damned lucky to be living in this age. 99% of our ancestors were not so lucky and most didn't live beyond 40.  Enjoy life and realize it doesn't go on forever. Appreciated what you have.

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On 5/11/2020 at 12:48 PM, NorCalR1 said:

 

By nature, people don't like to be told what to do. They (some) want to go back to their pre covid-19 life as the economy "slowly" reopens, but it is not going to happen, and rather then just deal with it, they take it as a loss of personal liberty and they take it out on those who are just doing their jobs. In addition of having to change our lives, we have to learn to deal with these folks as well. 

 

 

Who’s Enforcing Mask Rules? Often Retail Workers, and They’re Getting Hurt

The risk of a violent reaction now hangs over jobs already fraught with health perils.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/coronavirus-masks-violence.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

 

This is a free article. All covid-related stories are free on the NYT.

Edited by butterflywings

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I unfriended two people today for being idiots. They shared memes claiming wearing a CLOTH mask causes hypercapnia.

 

um... perhaps an N95 mask or some S&M gear will but not the disposable cloth mask in your meme... unless someone shoves it into your windpipe.

Edited by hegemony

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1 hour ago, hegemony said:

Peculiar that they don't want to review the percentage of the asserted bots pushing the panic porn narrative. 

 

Also interesting that the article does not support the title...they just believe that speed or frequency equals bot.  Its a flawed narrative by a group pushing an agenda...

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2 hours ago, hegemony said:

 

People don't need bots to tell the tale of unemployment, debt, unpaid rents, unpaid bills, etc. Most parts of the US are quickly coming up on 90 days of being SIP'ed. No longer need to push so hard to reopen the country, it has already happening on it's own. Society will only tolerate so much. So what are Governors going to do? Start arresting everyone who violates SIP? They can't even keep felons in jail.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, NorCalR1 said:

 

People don't need bots to tell the tale of unemployment, debt, unpaid rents, unpaid bills, etc. Most parts of the US are quickly coming up on 90 days of being SIP'ed. No longer need to push so hard to reopen the country, it has already happening on it's own. Society will only tolerate so much. So what are Governors going to do? Start arresting everyone who violates SIP? They can't even keep felons in jail.

 

 

I've always assumed 50% traffic on the twitter is by bots anyway.

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