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It all comes together, the fact its texas doesn't matter its the fact that high end equipment is an expensive gimmick no matter where you are.

 

This thread is about merchant fees and you are a prime example the expensive contractor that up sold you on expensive equipment isn't looking out for your best interest. Thats why he eats the CC fee because he charges so much he can. He fooled you just like the others in this thread. That don't see they'd rather waste more money at an expensive place that hides the CC fee than one that is fair to its customers.

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I am a little nuts but not uninformed I follow hvac all around the country bud.

 

I beg to differ I could make a go at if I didn't hate working in attics and crawl spaces. I'll stick with my basements in ohio.

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When we lived in Maine, I was stunned by how few places accepted credit cards. None of the contractors I used to rehab the house, almost none of the shops/restaurants in town, even the town (taxes, water, pool fees, sports leagues, vehicle registrations) was cash/check only. Obviously, when in Portland it was much different, as close to a big city as Mainers get.

 

I would never pay cash or debit anymore, unless I absolutely had no choice, like a street vendor.

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No, you have no clue about TX.

Thats all you got? I know its hot as hell and still gets cold but most areas don't have gas furnaces. Where you at exactly? The size of your house matters too if were talking 4000 sq ft with two separate systems then you got a decent deal. Otherwise 14k for a single system with no duct work besides the plenum/return drop is crazy.

 

Instead of telling me what I don't know get your gas/electric bill out and show me where I'm wrong. http://www.goodmanmfg.com/resources/energy-calculator

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If you don't believe me that the high end stuff is expensive junk. Give it a few years, the high end stuff has more rare parts that arn't tried and true. Your the test dummy just like if you buy a car with new technology that hasn't been out for long. The basic stuff has the same few basic parts they've been using for years in all brands. Where the high end stuff has unique to the brand parts and more of them.

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No, you have no clue about TX.

Thats all you got? I know its hot as hell and still gets cold but most areas don't have gas furnaces. Where you at exactly? The size of your house matters too if were talking 4000 sq ft with two separate systems then you got a decent deal. Otherwise 14k for a single system with no duct work besides the plenum/return drop is crazy.

 

Instead of telling me what I don't know get your gas/electric bill out and show me where I'm wrong. http://www.goodmanmfg.com/resources/energy-calculator

 

 

Your initial comments about the new technology being "junk" and the $6K quote was all I needed. Even the least expensive single stage system (your favorite old technology) for a 1400 sq ft house put in by a less than reputable company costs that or more here. You made that estimate without knowing any details as well. In my area, we use air conditioning at least some of the time in every month, and demands are different. Also, I like being able to have my house 70 degrees when it is 110 outside.

 

If you don't believe me that the high end stuff is expensive junk. Give it a few years, the high end stuff has more rare parts that arn't tried and true. Your the test dummy just like if you buy a car with new technology that hasn't been out for long. The basic stuff has the same few basic parts they've been using for years in all brands. Where the high end stuff has unique to the brand parts and more of them.

 

This technology is not new. It has been out for several years.

 

Can we be done now since this is not related to this thread?

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No, you have no clue about TX.

Thats all you got? I know its hot as hell and still gets cold but most areas don't have gas furnaces. Where you at exactly? The size of your house matters too if were talking 4000 sq ft with two separate systems then you got a decent deal. Otherwise 14k for a single system with no duct work besides the plenum/return drop is crazy.

 

Instead of telling me what I don't know get your gas/electric bill out and show me where I'm wrong. http://www.goodmanmfg.com/resources/energy-calculator

 

 

Your initial comments about the new technology being "junk" and the $6K quote was all I needed. Even the least expensive single stage system (your favorite old technology) for a 1400 sq ft house put in by a less than reputable company costs that or more here. You made that estimate without knowing any details as well. In my area, we use air conditioning at least some of the time in every month, and demands are different. Also, I like being able to have my house 70 degrees when it is 110 outside.

 

If you don't believe me that the high end stuff is expensive junk. Give it a few years, the high end stuff has more rare parts that arn't tried and true. Your the test dummy just like if you buy a car with new technology that hasn't been out for long. The basic stuff has the same few basic parts they've been using for years in all brands. Where the high end stuff has unique to the brand parts and more of them.

 

This technology is not new. It has been out for several years.

 

Can we be done now since this is not related to this thread?

 

 

The technology has been out but they still don't have it right. The fact that you want it 70 at 110 ends it for me. Our design temp is 75 with it 90 outside, 70 at 110 is insane. I worked in dallas for awhile when it was 105 80 felt cold once you got into some ac. I was working in walk ins the 105 to 40 about killed me.

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80 is hot.

 

Its all relative if your used to being outside in 100 degree weather 80 feels great. Same as getting used to working in the cold for hours makes 60 feel warm. In the spring I start out setting my tstat low at 74 and gradually work it up to 78 80 as summer progresses. Same with winter, this winter I started at 68 and worked it down to 60 or so by the end. I get the opposite for some reason in a lot of peoples houses they want it 70 in the summer and 75 in the winter, makes no sense to me.

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The topic is CC fees, not HVAC. In a minute I'm going to split out the HVAC posts so the OP can have his topic back.

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Seperate CC fees are dog poop.

 

Only time I'll pay them is paying property tax and income tax to meet several spend bonuses.

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Seperate CC fees are dog poop.

 

Only time I'll pay them is paying property tax and income tax to meet several spend bonuses.

 

Unlike you I learned in high school physics class there is no such thing as a free lunch. The drive thru and supply house I frequent that charge cc fees don't bother me. The supply house first time I went in there years ago, guys voice was shaking telling me he had to charge 2.5% like I would freak out. I just said thats cool dude I understand your a business too, either way I get 2% of it back.

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Unlike you I learned in high school physics class there is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

http://www.hustlermoneyblog.com/eat-free-on-your-birthday/

 

 

Lol my physics teachers explained stuff like that that all the customers are paying for it. I have a huntington account because of the account opening bonus though, I'm in.

 

The supplier that charges is the one that has the parts to the high end equipment my main supplier doesn't charge a cc fee.

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I paid for my new $14K HVAC system last year with a CC (no extra charge).

 

You went with an expensive company, I mean really expensive. An expensive company with billboard ads around here will do a basic system for 8k or so. The expensive high efficient systems are a gimmick they're more expensive to put in and more expensive to fix never saving you any money. You got hosed, no CC fee on 14k means jack when I'll do most furnace ac replacements for 5 - 6k.

 

So far I'm happy with my $6,200 system, even without credit card miles. The company that installed everything was recommended to me by a friend. The old one came new when I purchased the house in 1997, and was leaking the very expensive, and soon to be phased out, R22 refrigerant. To find and fix the leak and then recharge it would cost almost half of a whole new unit, and even if fixed, could have a new problem the next day, that's still an old R22 unit. My new unit (air conditioner and furnace) has a two year labor warranty and 10 years for parts. I didn't go for a very expensive super efficient unit, but this one is efficient enough.

 

Everything was replaced in March. The furnace was in the attic and the compressor in the backyard. I let the crew (there were four people) in my house before I went to work. When I got home, they were done. I'm unsure how they got everything through the small door in my ceiling to the attic, but they did. The only thing I needed to do is some small paint touch-ups afterwards,

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80 is hot.

 

Its all relative if your used to being outside in 100 degree weather 80 feels great. Same as getting used to working in the cold for hours makes 60 feel warm. In the spring I start out setting my tstat low at 74 and gradually work it up to 78 80 as summer progresses. Same with winter, this winter I started at 68 and worked it down to 60 or so by the end. I get the opposite for some reason in a lot of peoples houses they want it 70 in the summer and 75 in the winter, makes no sense to me.

 

Makes perfect sense to me. I set my thermostat at 75 in the summer, maybe 74. In AZ, when you come in from 110 outside, 80 does not feel comfortable. Not even close.

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Any business that does this, except of course square users (And makes it a point to show they're billing me for their CC fee as a separate line item), loses my business from that point on.

 

Eat the fee or eat ramen.

 

Amen.

 

A few years ago, DW and I were in Virginia and got lunch at Hardee's. The receipt had a line item for a "Credit Card Fee" of 75 cents. It's not that much, but it's the principle of the thing. There was no signage anywhere that mentioned the fee. Apparently, that crap is legal in VA. It's illegal in FL, fortunately. Suffice it to say we will never enter that Hardee's again, ever.

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Any business that does this, except of course square users (And makes it a point to show they're billing me for their CC fee as a separate line item), loses my business from that point on.

 

Eat the fee or eat ramen.

 

Amen.

 

A few years ago, DW and I were in Virginia and got lunch at Hardee's. The receipt had a line item for a "Credit Card Fee" of 75 cents. It's not that much, but it's the principle of the thing. There was no signage anywhere that mentioned the fee. Apparently, that crap is legal in VA. It's illegal in FL, fortunately. Suffice it to say we will never enter that Hardee's again, ever.

 

 

I do not understand why business would break out the charge? If I buy a hamburger off the dollar menu, I am not told that 15 cents goes to labor and 25 cents to food cost and 8 cents to utilities, etc. Why would I be told 3 cents went to credit card fees?

 

Plus, as someone noted, cash is not free. 20 years ago I was a manager at JCP. We had dozens of registers throughout the store, sometimes with multiple cash drawers at each if associates changed during shifts. There was also a 'cash room' similar to a casino cage for counting money, dispensing cash drawers, preparing deposits. That required the employment of several people. And there was the cost of Brinks picking up the money every day. And the risk of drawers being short. And interest lost due to all that cash being in stores instead of in the bank. And bad checks. And counterfeits. And scammers.

 

These days, far more people pay with debit/credit than cash. Easier to just assume that will be the payment method and price accordingly.

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