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I stopped shopping there after a horrendous customer experience, when they refused to pay for return shipping on the most cheaply-made, awful down comforter I've ever encountered. I swear it was stuffed with dead mice.

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I stopped shopping there after a horrendous customer experience, when they refused to pay for return shipping on the most cheaply-made, awful down comforter I've ever encountered. I swear it was stuffed with dead mice.

I also had a bad bedding experience. I got a $400 matress topper that was a "serta" however what came was clearly not... Even went out and purchased the real deal in the store and it was soooo different. I no longer shop at overstock as their prices are usualy above ebay and amazon anyways.

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I stopped shopping there after a horrendous customer experience, when they refused to pay for return shipping on the most cheaply-made, awful down comforter I've ever encountered. I swear it was stuffed with dead mice.

 

Mice down. ...new product?

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I don't want to open a new topic just for this but Overstock wouldn't happen to be a hidden TL would it? I opened an account weeks ago and it still hasn't shown up on my reports like other Comenity cards.

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I don't want to open a new topic just for this but Overstock wouldn't happen to be a hidden TL would it? I opened an account weeks ago and it still hasn't shown up on my reports like other Comenity cards.

Mine shows up. I used it once and PIF, but it did report as a new card to all CRA before use.

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I stopped shopping there after a horrendous customer experience, when they refused to pay for return shipping on the most cheaply-made, awful down comforter I've ever encountered. I swear it was stuffed with dead mice.

I also had a bad bedding experience. I got a $400 matress topper that was a "serta" however what came was clearly not... Even went out and purchased the real deal in the store and it was soooo different. I no longer shop at overstock as their prices are usualy above ebay and amazon anyways.

 

 

I almost forgot about the knives I bought. I had no idea Wusthof even had a line of knives made out of aluminum foil and lawn clippings.

 

I was really done after that purchase.

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On 3/28/2015 at 11:47 AM, cv91915 said:

 

I almost forgot about the knives I bought. I had no idea Wusthof even had a line of knives made out of aluminum foil and lawn clippings.

 

I was really done after that purchase.

I inadvertently purchased a set of Wusthof's poverty/budget knives (didn't know at the time that they made them) from Overstock.com.

 

The blades are flimsy and the knives sucked comprehensively when they were knew, but five years later... good lord.  I can't even get a sharp edge on them anymore.

 

Dilemma:  I could spend $50,000 on a new set of knives, and TAD will still put them in the dishwasher.  There is a 0% chance of changing this.

 

Choices:

 

1 - Take the current knives out to be professionally sharpened locally and hope for another 5 more years (I can have this done for $2-6 per knife plus my time dropping off/picking up, so this is a pretty small risk/investment);
 

2 - Buy a new set of poverty/budget knives and hope to get 5 years out of them;
 

3 - Buy a better set of knives.  Forget about whether the heat and detergent in the dishwasher will cause permanent spots on the knives or prematurely eat away the handles.  At this point, I really only care how they work.  

 

Opinions?

 

 

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Yeah ... it's sad when a quality name decides to dilute their brand image by selling a discounted "second" product under the same brand.  On the other hand, I'm going to guess that the stated MSRP on the Overstock item wasn't something like $1295. 

 

I'm not prepared to make this call.  But if your description is apt, I have to think you're talking about something like their "Gourmet" line (yeah, and my kitties' food comes in a "Gourmet" line as well ;) ).  Personally, I don't expect sharpening will get you more than a year of marginally exceptional use.  (But, then again, I favor higher end lines and trust that, after scoring whatever the best deal I can find, you largely get what you pay for.)

 

Don't get me wrong ... I've "been there".  Worst yet are the companies that trash their entire line quality.  Our first Sharp Mircrowave gave us over 10 years of use without any problem.  I've been sold on Sharp since ... until we bought one this spring and the motor burned out after just 6 mo (who has time to make a warranty claim; still looking to attend to it before we move to MA). 

 

Should have been clued in though on the Sharp:  Our original oven felt like it was built like a tank (circa 1987).  The most recent one hefted more like my cousin's Easy Bake Oven in 1966.

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7 hours ago, hdporter said:

Yeah ... it's sad when a quality name decides to dilute their brand image by selling a discounted "second" product under the same brand.  On the other hand, I'm going to guess that the stated MSRP on the Overstock item wasn't something like $1295. 

 

I'm not prepared to make this call.  But if your description is apt, I have to think you're talking about something like their "Gourmet" line (yeah, and my kitties' food comes in a "Gourmet" line as well ;) ).  Personally, I don't expect sharpening will get you more than a year of marginally exceptional use.  (But, then again, I favor higher end lines and trust that, after scoring whatever the best deal I can find, you largely get what you pay for.)

 

Don't get me wrong ... I've "been there".  Worst yet are the companies that trash their entire line quality.  Our first Sharp Mircrowave gave us over 10 years of use without any problem.  I've been sold on Sharp since ... until we bought one this spring and the motor burned out after just 6 mo (who has time to make a warranty claim; still looking to attend to it before we move to MA). 

 

Should have been clued in though on the Sharp:  Our original oven felt like it was built like a tank (circa 1987).  The most recent one hefted more like my cousin's Easy Bake Oven in 1966.

I think we have the Gourmet line here.

 

I have a quality set of Wusthofs in San Diego, and it's been a great value (quality/price combo).  It's been going strong for 10-12 yearsi or more, and it still looks and performs great.  These have only ever been washed by hand.

 

I think my main question is about what a dishwasher does to knives, practically speaking (vs. aesthetically).  

 

There are other risks to putting knives in the dishwasher (dangerous when unloading if you don't know they're in there, potentially chipping other items during the wash cycle, etc.).

 

I'm willing to overlook everything except the impact that a dishwasher, over time, has on the function/performance of the knife itself.

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5 hours ago, cv91915 said:

I think my main question is about what a dishwasher does to knives, practically speaking (vs. aesthetically).  

 

There are other risks to putting knives in the dishwasher (dangerous when unloading if you don't know they're in there, potentially chipping other items during the wash cycle, etc.).

 

I'm willing to overlook everything except the impact that a dishwasher, over time, has on the function/performance of the knife itself.

 

Well, I intentionally sidestepped the dishwasher "question" ... in my mind, placing either fine cutting knives or quality cooking pans into the dishwasher is akin to using scouring powder to wash your car.

 

However, interest piqued, I queried a couple of websites to get the official word:

 

https://www.wuesthof.com/international/knowledge/cleaning/index.jsp

 

http://blog.gygi.com/blog/2012/11/27/wusthof-part-10-the-proper-care-for-long-lasting-knives/

 

The second website largely parroted the concerns of the first.  My take on what I read:  Any impact is largely cosmetic and any related damage can be remedied with a bit of a polish of the blades at the same time you have them sharpened.  The primary "threat" is simply the banging around of cutlery (and any adjacent flatware, etc) in the basket during the dishwasher cycle.   (And if your cutlery basket has a cover with individual knife grooves, I imagine you might avoid much of that.)  I had imagined that there would be cautionary words about the abrasiveness of most automatic dishwasher powers/solutions -- not a peep.

 

So, given that training a human to switch up routine is a much more daunting task than, say, training a pet into new behavior, I'd say you're fine with things as they are in your household (i.e. with your spouse ;)

 

FWIW, when my future wife moved in 35 years ago, and we subsequently began acquiring "nice things", she harshly impressed upon me that the first set of Calphalon pans and Henkel knives were, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, to be placed in the dishwasher (and I have a pretty good inkling that she had a rolled up newspaper at the ready, if need to reinforce the point ;) ... these days, of course, latter acquired "undesirable" habits, or ones simply not previously addressed, are simply tolerated -- for reasons noted above)

 

So knives/lesser used pans are rinsed and accumulate beside the sink until the dishwasher is run (just once or twice a week, with just two of us and an everyday dish/cutlery set that has expanded to service for 16, not to mention frequent short trip travel), at which time the person doing the dishwasher run (typically me) is responsible for a handwash.

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46 minutes ago, hdporter said:

 

Well, I intentionally sidestepped the dishwasher "question" ... in my mind, placing either fine cutting knives or quality cooking pans into the dishwasher is akin to using scouring powder to wash your car.

 

However, interest piqued, I queried a couple of websites to get the official word:

 

https://www.wuesthof.com/international/knowledge/cleaning/index.jsp

 

http://blog.gygi.com/blog/2012/11/27/wusthof-part-10-the-proper-care-for-long-lasting-knives/

 

The second website largely parroted the concerns of the first.  My take on what I read:  Any impact is largely cosmetic and any related damage can be remedied with a bit of a polish of the blades at the same time you have them sharpened.  The primary "threat" is simply the banging around of cutlery (and any adjacent flatware, etc) in the basket during the dishwasher cycle.   (And if your cutlery basket has a cover with individual knife grooves, I imagine you might avoid much of that.)  I had imagined that there would be cautionary words about the abrasiveness of most automatic dishwasher powers/solutions -- not a peep.

 

So, given that training a human to switch up routine is a much more daunting task than, say, training a pet into new behavior, I'd say you're fine with things as they are in your household (i.e. with your spouse ;)

 

FWIW, when my future wife moved in 35 years ago, and we subsequently began acquiring "nice things", she harshly impressed upon me that the first set of Calphalon pans and Henkel knives were, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, to be placed in the dishwasher (and I have a pretty good inkling that she had a rolled up newspaper at the ready, if need to reinforce the point ;) ... these days, of course, latter acquired "undesirable" habits, or ones simply not previously addressed, are simply tolerated -- for reasons noted above)

 

So knives/lesser used pans are rinsed and accumulate beside the sink until the dishwasher is run (just once or twice a week, with just two of us and an everyday dish/cutlery set that has expanded to service for 16, not to mention frequent short trip travel), at which time the person doing the dishwasher run (typically me) is responsible for a handwash.

Thanks for the extra pair of eyeballs on the info that's out there.

 

There are a few things I know I cannot change about TAD, and this is one.  Pans, same thing.  EVERYTHING goes in the dishwasher.  

 

We bought a set of Sur La Table's house brand of nonstick cookware when we bought the Mud Hut, and while it looks like hell, it still cooks like it's brand new.  Occasionally the need or desire will arise for a different size pan or skillet, and I only buy those at TJ Maxx.

 

I think I'll have the current knives sharpened and see how much time that buys us...  

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