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I have been thinking about this since learning about Amex backdating and how it helps AAofA.
I have really two thoughts. One is I'm surprised that AMEX isn't pressured not to backdate new accounts since the rules say if you report (you don't have to report), you have to report accurately. I'm glad they do it, but they are kind of fudging there.
But what I really don't get is why some of their competitors don't do the same thing. That would be a huge benefit to members and would draw lots of new business and wouldn't cost a dime.
I am just surprised that AMEX seems to have a lock on this perk and is able to gain a competitive advantage over their peers.
I'm trying to help a friend with an Auto Loan that was at Bank of America that is now paid off. BofA is reporting 30 days late Aug 2011, 30 days late Dec 2012, and 60 days late Jan 2013.
I am looking at the Metro 2 — 2012 Credit Reporting Resource Guide to understand how and when 30-day and 60-day lates are to be properly reported. In there I read:
They then give an example of a payment due on January 15th and how it should report on the first of each month:
January 1st: 0-29 days late (code 11) - no payments past due February 1st: 0-29 days late (code 11) - one payment past due March 1st: 30-59 days late (code 71) - two payments past due April 1st: 60-89 days late (code 78) - three payments past due This BofA loan appears to have a due date of the 1st of each month and a 5% late payment charged on the 12th of each month (unless that is a holiday or weekend, then next business day).
The Metro 2 guide states later:
Later I see this section on Date of First Delinquency:
None of the CRAs show a Date of First Delinquency for this account, the field only appears on Equifax and is blank there, no mention of DOFD on any other CR for this tradeline.
After analyzing the report supplied of the complete payment history on the account, this is what I find:
The due date appears to have been the 1st of each month. A late charge of 5% is charged on the 12th of each month if payment not received by close of business on that business day. I don't know what day of month Chase reports to the credit bureaus, but I am assuming it is the first of each month, but perhaps it is last day of the month? How can I find this out? Account was 30 days late on August 31, 2011 Account was 30 days late on October 1, 2011 Account was 30 days late on December 31, 2012 Account was 60 days late on January 30, 2012 Only if BofA reports on the very last day of each month would their reporting be accurate if the due date is actually the 1st of each month.
How can I know for certain what day of the month BofA reports to the credit bureaus? How can I find out for certain what day of the month payments were due and what their late payment charge policy is? Should I ask BofA to produce a signed contract for the loan? So far they've only provided a computer printout of the payment history.
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Happy New Year's to all my fellow CBers:
Hope everyone had a safe and happy holiday season. I had a quick question, I have read threads on D* and in everything I got a little confused. With regards to an AU card, IF the AU had their OWN AMEX in say 1993 would they be able to use that as a D* date if added on as an AU? I know that it is said AU D* is dead, however, I kinda got turned around in my readings, I think that it is dead with regards to the MAIN CC Acct Holder having D* and the AU trying to get the SAME D* that really wasn't theirs. I am assuming that if the AU had a potential D* of 1993, that AMEX would honor it regardless of the date on the new acct, am I completely off here?
Also, if AMEX did allow it, what might the impact be on the AU's AAOA. would it truly effect it? Or since it's only an AU card does it factor differently?
As always, thanks for all your help and guidance, I have some success stories to share as soon as I get caught up with school.
I am wondering if anyone else has experience/advice to offer on this predicament. I have 6 cards, listed below for reference:
Bank of America Cash Rewards Visa Sig $10k/9.99 (6/2010)
Citi Diamond Preferred MasterCard $10.2k/11.99 (10/2012)
Chase Freedom Visa Sig $10k/15.24 (1/2012) (Call in to the EO about reducing the APR, given how much I spend, good luck to me though with Chase's stubbornness)
Amex BCE $12.6k/10.24 (9/2011)
Barclay Ring MC $5k/8.0 (4/2012)
Discover IT $19k/11.99 (9/2012) (Yes, subprime Discover loves to give me $4-5k soft pull increases every few months!)
Anyway, the Diamond Preferred is a good "backup" MC to keep in my wallet in case a purchase gets declined on a Visa card. I would like to have the World benefits, and mainly, I want it because there's no reason with my profile, limits, etc... for me to not have it (I had a Dividend card I closed because I got mad at Citi two years ago, which had a lower limit and was still a World card).
I've seen some people meet success just requesting a World card via phone (as I did with my previous card), but this time I am having no luck.
I've called the regular numbers, and even the EO & Twitter. When I find someone who even understands what I'm asking, they just start rattling off a list of annual-fee carrying airline cards I can convert to that are World cards. They've also told me you can only get offered the upgrade, which just doesn't sit right with what else I've seen. My conclusion is that Citi is pushing World/Sig away on no-AF cards, as it seems like anything without an AF (TY Preferred Visa, DP Visa, Simplicity Visa), is marketed as a regular Visa, while the AF cards are marketed as Sig cards.
Does anyone have an idea as to what I can do? Can I convert to a Dividend card if it isn't offered anymore? Is there anything I could do to get this converted to a World card?
A very frustrated smc733