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I highly suggest one read this article 3 or 4 times and let all of it sink in...

 

Note - All "underlined" text was done by ME and NOT part of the original syntax

 

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WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said Thursday that it was about to begin testing a new technology designed to help more closely monitor and assist the nation's homeless population. While HRSA's program appears to be the first to forcibly implant humans with RFID tags, the technology is becoming more widely adopted as retailers use it to track goods. Wal-Mart Stores said last year that it will require its top 100 suppliers to place RFID tags on shipping crates and pallets by January 2005.

 

Chris Hoofnagle, deputy director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said the mandatory RFID program would be vulnerable to a legal challenge. "It is a glaring violation of the Tenth Amendment, which says that powers not awarded to the government are reserved to the people, and homeless people have just as many Tenth Amendment rights as everyone else," said Hoofnagle, who is speaking about homeless privacy at this month's Computers Freedom and Privacy conference in Berkeley, Calif.

 

A spokesman for the National Coalition for the Homeless, which estimates that there are between 2.3 million and 3.5 million people experiencing homelessness nationwide, said the pilot program could be easily abused. "We have expressed our tentative support for the idea to HRSA, but only if it includes privacy safeguards," the spokesman said. "So far it's unclear whether those safeguards will actually be in place by roll-out."

 

Under the pilot program, which grew out of a series of policy academies held in the last two years, homeless people in participating cities will be implanted with mandatory Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags that social workers and police can use track their movements.

 

The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin. Data from RFID tracking stations mounted on telephone poles will be transmitted to police and social service workers, who will use custom Windows NT software to track movements of the homeless in real time.

 

In what has become a chronic social problem, people living in shelters and on the streets do not seek adequate medical care and frequently contribute to the rising crime rate in major cities. Supporters of subdermal RFID tracking say the technology will discourage implanted homeless men and women from committing crimes, while making it easier for government workers to provide social services such as delivering food and medicine.

Duke called the RFID tagging pilot program "a high-tech, minimally-intrusive way for the government to lift our citizens away from the twin perils of poverty and crime." Participating cities include New York City, San Francisco, Washington, and Bethlehem, Penn.

 

Participating states will receive grants of $14 million to $58 million from the federal Projects for Assistance in Transition from Homelessness

(PATH) program, which was created under the McKinney Act to fund support services for the homeless. A second phase of the project, scheduled to be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information on the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the Windows CE operating system.

 

The RFID technology was developed by HHS' Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) in partnership with five states, including California and New York. "This is a rare opportunity to use advanced technology to meet society's dual objectives of better serving our homeless population while making our cities safer," HRSA Administrator Betty James Duke said.

 

Copyright © 2001-2004 United Press International

 

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<plz plz plzzzz do not move or lock this thread no matter how bad it may get in the future...this is WAY too important for that...plz>

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Again i HIGHLY suggest one read the below threads.

 

PLEASE IGNORE the tone of the messenger (me) and FOCUS on the message....

 

This is SERIOUS stuff that needs to be acted upon NOW!

 

http://www.creditboards.com/phpBB2/viewtop...t=46167&start=0

 

http://www.creditboards.com/phpBB2/viewtop...p=337213#337213

 

http://www.creditboards.com/phpBB2/viewtop...pic.php?t=50899

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I highly suggest one read this article 3 or 4 times and let all of it sink in...

 

The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin. Data from RFID tracking stations mounted on telephone poles will be transmitted to police and social service workers, who will use custom Windows NT software to track movements of the homeless in real time.

 

This PARTICULAR paragraph needs to be read over and over and over.....

 

According to this information, the technology is ALREADY IN PLACE to track ANYONE WEARING OR USING "passive" ANYTHING that is RFID-EQUIPPED.

 

No special "power sources" ...

No need for external batteries....

No need for even GPS...

 

only the RFID chip itself is enough for tracking!!!!!

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For those who need further PROOF that is deadly serious and already implemented....

 

here's the GOVERNMENT HUD pdf. explanation and description of the plan...

 

http://www.epic.org/privacy/poverty/hmis.pdf

 

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Here's the person one NEEDED to contact before September 22, 2003 to "comment" on the matter.....

The public can comment on HMIS until September 22, 2003 by mail to HUD. No provision for electronic or fax submissions has been arranged. Comments should be addressed to:

 

Michael Roanhouse Re: Doc. No. FR 4848-N-01 / HMIS Data Office of Special Needs Assistance Programs Office of the Assistant Secretary for Community Planning and Development Room 7262 HUD 451 7th St. SW Washington, DC 20410

 

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First of all, I can see what kind of source websites that you get this paranoid inforamtion from that actually takes this as a serious subject:

 

www.refuseandresist.org/police_state/art.php?aid=1341

 

But it is an APRILS FOOLS JOKE!

 

http://blogger.iftf.org/Future/000376.html

 

April 01, 2004

RFID tag April Fool's

It must be a sign of something significant when a new technology is sufficiently well-known (or controversial) to be the subject of an April Fool's fake press release. The following hit my in-box this morning. Alas, I don't know where it came from.

 

WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said Thursday that it was about to begin testing a new technology designed to help more closely monitor and assist the nation's homeless population.

 

Under the pilot program, which grew out of a series of policy academies held in the last two years, homeless people in participating cities will be implanted with mandatory Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags that social workers and police can use track their movements.

 

The RFID technology was developed by HHS' Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) in partnership with five states, including California and New York. "This is a rare opportunity to use advanced technology to meet society's dual objectives of better serving our homeless population while making our cities safer," HRSA Administrator Betty James Duke said.

 

 

'nuff said.

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First of all, I can see what kind of source websites that you get this paranoid inforamtion from that actually takes this as a serious subject:

 

www.refuseandresist.org/police_state/art.php?aid=1341

 

But it is an APRILS FOOLS JOKE!

 

http://blogger.iftf.org/Future/000376.html

 

April 01, 2004

RFID tag April Fool's

It must be a sign of something significant when a new technology is sufficiently well-known (or controversial) to be the subject of an April Fool's fake press release. The following hit my in-box this morning. Alas, I don't know where it came from.

 

 

 

 

'nuff said.

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sigh, I SERIOUSLY suggest you ACTUALLY read the HUD pdf and see wat a" joke" it is....

 

the joke is on all of us for letting this nonsense sneak past us...

 

here it is again... as i can see you are having issues accepting it's verascibility

 

 

http://www.epic.org/privacy/poverty/hmis.pdf

 

I ALSO suggest that you or anyone else go the HUD/HSS website and look up HMIS as it will direct you to the above pdf...

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You are going to have to keep bumping this thread yourself after this post.

 

The Link above is cencus taking and does not referance involuntary chip insertion.

 

But what would tracking the homeless do for those in SanFrancisco? They let the homeless defacate on public sidewalks for crying out loud! The ACLU made sure that their right to use public sidewalks as a toilet was protected and they will make sure that the chips pass the DNC criteria if they actually get to that point. But it won't. They can not be forced to have these implants if they don't want them.

 

 

Are you paranoid about Gov't agents showing up at your front door to forcibly insert a chip into you? You keep sounding the alarms, HumbleMarc, and when the cyborgs from the future show up to destroy the Earth then you can say "I told you so".

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You are going to have to keep bumping this thread yourself after this post.  

 

The Link above is cencus taking and does not referance involuntary chip insertion.  

 

But what would tracking the homeless do for those in SanFrancisco? They let the homeless defacate on public sidewalks for crying out loud!   The ACLU made sure that their right to use public sidewalks as a toilet was protected and they will make sure that the chips pass the DNC criteria if they actually get to that point. But it won't. They can not be forced to have these implants if they don't want them.

lol i find it hard to believe you read that ENTIRE dry, technical, and bureacratic document in less 30 minutes...but i'll take your word for it :lol: and will ignore your other inflamatory comments

 

(looks around for mods)

 

ACTUALLY to clarify, the document EXPRESSLY says that those who do NOT participate in the "program" will not be given access to rooms, job opportunities, etc that the program offers. It DOES state that they do not "believe" it will be required those who only come in for soup kitchens...

 

It also states that due to the ability to "track" people, victims of domestic abuse will be given the special considerations...

 

 

Ironically it IS called the "Paperwork Reduction Act"

 

and for a "April fool's joke" it seems to unerringly have all the details correct such as...

 

Names of Executives.

Names of Acts it is using or is based upon.

Dates of Implementation

Etc.

 

And yes oddly enough it says nothing directly about RFID chips...

In fact it doesn't say ANYTHING outside of using "HMIS." and whatever that "HMIS" is, is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and UNIQUE "thing" than the computers that workers will use to input the data.

 

Of course, one needs to read the document to MAKE SURE i'm not making this up or interpreting things that are not there.

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ok..

if anyone DOES read the pages of bureaucratic double speak (now i remember why i didn't become a diplomat :wink: )

they are going to have to interpret the words of "HMIS personal identifier" with a "unique PIN" as the RFID chip.

 

I know it's hard to read and is very vague(err technical) but if one DOES read the whole thing, it becomes apparent wat they are referring to.

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This will be my only post in this topic, in the interest of keeping information on this board accurate.

RFID for the homeless has been thoroughly debunked as an April Fools joke.

Even UPI, whom the story is attributed to insists that the story is a forgery:

 

 

 

An article on monitoring the homeless population, which was attributed to UPI, was posted on your Politech list serv.  

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> I have talked to our Editorial Department and no one wrote the article or authorized anyone to write the article.  

>  

> We have received several responses from people asking us if the article is legitimate. We are telling people that the article is not legitimate since we have no knowledge of any aspect of the article.  

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> Given the context of the article, I think you understand why we are concerned about the article being attributed to UPI.  

>  

> Please give me a call when you get a chance, as I would like to talk with you about this matter..  

>  

> Sincerely,  

>  

> Marc Oram  

>  

> __________________________________________________  

> Marc Oram  

> Assistant General Counsel  

> United Press International  

> 1510 H Street, N.W.  

> Washington, District of Columbia 20005  

> Ph. (202) 898-8073  

> Fax (202) 898-8051  

> moram_at_upi.com  

>

http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2004/May/0013.html

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HumbleMarc,

 

I do believe what you are saying. All this is biblical and can be found in the book of revelations. Everyone will take the mark of the BEAST and his number will be unknown(not 666 like people think).

 

This chip is best placed in the head or hand according to manufacturs I read a story on MONDEX company backed by Mastercard.

 

I don't have to read the article to know whats happening. I didn't know it was already in the USA though.

 

 

This chip is The Beast aka Satan, which I still have'n t figured out who that

is.

 

This is not a joke (link redacted)

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16 years later that link goes to a payday loan site.
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2 hours ago, Rittar said:

Hi friends
I understand that the topic is outdated, but I had a question
and what solution to the problem of homelessness do you see? are there any options?

So, you have people who are homeless in the Ukraine also?

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2 hours ago, Rittar said:

It seems to me that this is a common problem all over the world, doesn't it?

We are a website that concentrates on helping people resolve problems related to their credit files based in the USA.  We are not competent to address credit reporting problems based on other country's laws. Witness our Canadian Forum which gets extraordinarily little traffic.

 

Homelessness tends to turn to political commentary, especially when discussing other countries.    That is a big NO-NO on this site.   You will not even get one warning prior to being banned if that happens.

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2 hours ago, MarvBear said:

We are a website that concentrates on helping people resolve problems related to their credit files based in the USA.  We are not competent to address credit reporting problems based on other country's laws. Witness our Canadian Forum which gets extraordinarily little traffic.

 

Homelessness tends to turn to political commentary, especially when discussing other countries.    That is a big NO-NO on this site.   You will not even get one warning prior to being banned if that happens.

I understand you, thank you. It just seems to me that this is a common problem all over the world and many people are interested in it. I've been reading a lot of interesting information about homelessness lately and I can say that I was shocked. You can also check it out and find out some more interesting information about homelessness and its prevalence in the world. I'm sure it will be useful

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