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  1. This is a 'continuation' of my original post in the medical billing forum for Wakefield & Associates that is not medically related - and mostly intended for WhyChat: So I received my Equifax report today and only have two tradelines on it. A current credit card, which is never late, etc etc. However, there is an entry from Jefferson Capital for an old debt from Verizon (not sure how it got to be $561 but that's not relevant here). I need your opinion on the following: I was able to retrieve my old credit reports from 2014 off of an old external hard drive. My most recent Equifax report dated 12/10 shows: (Jefferson Capital) DOFD: 01/2013 DMD 1st Rptd: 12/2015 BOTH of these are clearly and undeniably incorrect. The actual dates - from reports from 2014 are: (Verizon - OC) DOFD: 02/2013 DMD 1st Rptd: 08/2013 One is off by a month and the other is off by 2 yrs, 4 months. The most important one being the date of first major del. My questions are: 1) Should I do a regular DV with Eq asking for: "Please advise me as to the name and address of the original creditor, the name of the account holder, and the reported date of first delinquency,as any account I might have had at one time would be obsolete. Please advise me as to the correct name and current address of this creditor, the name of the account holder, and the reported date of first delinquency,as any account I might have had at one time would be obsolete. If you can obtain this information, I also would need the name of the person providing this data, and the manner in which it was provided in order that I may pursue additional legal remedies." https://whychat.me/initdispltrsol.html (With blue background/blue handwritten ink) (The above is what I sent to TU & Exp and am awaiting on their response.) 2) Or should I do a "jack attack" that I have seen on here where you dispute each and every entry? 3) What is the difference in sending by priority mail vs. certified. Both can be tracked and neither has to be signed for. About a $3 difference in cost of mailing. Just curious. Other info on this TL from Jefferson: From Verizon in 2014 Months Revd: 35 1 Creditor Calssification: Financial Blank Status: Collection Account Collection Account Type of Account: Open Open Type of Loan: Debt Buyer Account Telecommunication/Cellular Whose Account: Individual Account Individual Account Additional Information: Collection Account. Collection Your thoughts please as I plan on sending this out tomorrow if I can get to the Post Office before they close. I have to get either the Priority/certified numbers before I can send it. I would encourage anyone reading this to also read your link to Attorney Lawrence Rubin. I have read it, but need to go back and read it 'more slower' without any interruptions. Thanks again for your help and the Creditboards forum.
  2. Hi! I could use some advice. Whychat? Out of the blue, I received a settlement offer from EOS CCA in Boston, a CA for "current " creditor, U S Asset Management, Inc. It says the original creditor was Century Link Qwest and gives the original account number as my old phone number. This number was disconnected when I moved on Nov. 1. 2011. This is past the SOL. There is no original date on the letter. The letter does say that the original amount is $176.36 with no interest or fees. This seems a bit high but I do not remember the correct amount. I forgot all about it. I did not receive collection letters and it never reported to the bureaus. I would think that the information contained in the letter covers everything which a validation letter would generate. So what plan of action do I take? What letter do I send? I opted out 3 years ago but have since obtained more CCs. Perhaps that left me vulnerable to data miners. I have opted out again. Your help is appreciated. Jaybird
  3. Hello, This is my 1st post, I'm really glad i found this place. I've been reading here for hours and while I'm 100% better off than i was I'm also a bit overwhelmed with all of the information. I thought a post requesting specific advise on my issue would help lead me out of the fog. I am in the process of preparing to apply for a mortgage. On my credit report there is a collection for a utility bill in the amount of $9700. I honestly have no idea how my name was associated with this account other than the fact that i did have the utility in my name after this date for a short time and for 2 years before in 2008-2010 at this address. The address listed is my old house but from a time frame that my father lived there. To clarify i lived there from 2008-2010. I called the DC and they gave me information over the phone stating the address and the delinquency date of the bill (April of 2013). My father passed away in March 2013 so the dates make sense that his electric bill had not been paid in some time. I transferred the utilities for this home into my name at some point in April 2013 until the home was sold in late 2013. I know for certain and have evidence that this bill was paid after it came into my name. It seems that they are trying to pin the prior amount owed before it was in my name onto me. Long story short it isn't my debt but its on my credit report wrecking it. My payments are actually listed on my current utility account with the same provider because i had a current account with them at my current home at the time and when i had my fathers home added they just added it to my current account. This debt is past the statue of limitations to be collected but apparently not too old to be on my report until 2020. I talked to the DC again today on the phone (I know now and wont do this again) and requested they they send me validation which they said would be an itemized copy of the bill. I also offered to settle the debt at 10% to have it removed from my credit report because time is a factor for me on getting approved for this mortgage. I was careful to be clear that i was not acknowledging this debt was mine but it was worth $900 to me to save me the aggravation. They flat out declined and came back at $7k. I said i looked forward to their validation. I have not disputed this with the CB only verbally with the CA. What is my next step? Do i just go right to the flow chart pinned in this forum and get the paper trail started Monday morning with a written verification request? Have i shot myself in the foot in any manner thus far? My fathers estate is closed, but i was the executor/administrator. I do not think this legally ties the debt to me although i could be wrong. The lawyer did send out notice to all of his creditors and it's almost like someone at the utility company just put my name on his account. The DC is telling me my fathers name is no-where on the account in question, not even as a 2nd name. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
  4. The first dunning letter is for an alleged old medical bill for $900 Collection Agency is Dynamic Recovery Solutions. They give me three payment options but down on the bottom it says they cannot sue me for this debt nor report it to my credit reports. How should i handle this one? Just ignore them? The second one is not a medical collection but from the same CA. It's for an old cell phone bill for 200. Again down at the bottom it says they cannot sue me for this debt but they can report it to my reports. I have a feeling this comes from filling a complaint with the BBB against Jefferson Capital Systems last week. I filed on the 16th and these letters are dated for the 15th. Coincidence? Just an fyi the phone bill lists JCS as the "current creditor". May i also add that after complaning to the BBB then disputing JCS to the bureaus they did remove JCS from all 3CRA's. How should i proceed? Thoughts
  5. Hi, I’m new here and could use some help. Sorry in advance for the extra long post. In 2014 I was in an auto accident and ended up with five herniated discs in my neck. This led to migraines that landed me in the ER six times that year. I had medical insurance with a maximum out of pocket of $500 for the year. All six ER visits were to the same ER facility. Somehow they messed up the billing on three of the visits. I received bills from the hospital for the visits and the amounts not only exceeded my copay, but they exceeded my out of pocket maximum. The hospital was an in-network facility. The EOBs that I received from the insurance company said that the provider had not properly billed for the services performed. I called the hospital’s billing department. I was told that they were refilling the insurance and if there was an issue that I’d receive information in the mail. They sent me nothing. As it turns out, I ended up in collections for all three visits. I had a total of six collection accounts - three for the hospital and three for the doctors association. I was livid when I found out (I was trying to finance a new car and the dealership showed my the collection accounts). So I called the hospital billing department and sternly voiced my displeasure. I even threatened legal action. They said they’d look into it and get it handled. The hospital actually followed through and removed their three collections from all three of my credit reports. Unfortunately, the doctor’s association billing department wasn’t as easy to deal with. They contend that I owe them close to $2000. I explained the limits of my insurance policy and that the EOBs I had received showed that they had not properly billed the insurance. Their response was basically “too bad.” They said that I could pay them the full amount that they claim is due and that they’d report the collection as paid. I told them that this is ridiculous and that I want it removed. Once again, too bad. So I called the collection agency and explained the situation. I was told that it’s between me and the original creditor. A couple months ago the collections were completely removed from my Equifax report. I’m not sure why, but fine by me. But the collections were still listed on TransUnion and Experian. I initiated disputes with those credit bureaus. My disputes were all denied. But for some odd reason one of the collections now shows as closed (still with a balance) on TransUnion. At at this point, even if the doctor’s association were to try and resubmit the claims (which they’ve said they won’t do) they can’t. The insurance company I had in 2014 no longer operates in Florida. There isn’t even a phone number to contact them. I need to apply for auto financing again soon, and I need this cleared up first. I have no other collection accounts and no delinquencies or late payments. The three remaining collection accounts are the only negative information on my credit reports. So, what are my options? How do I get these collections removed/deleted? Thanks in advance, Daniel
  6. I have a TL on my TU and Exp reports (still waiting on Equifax) from Wakefield & Associates. Under "Loan Types" they are listed as "Collection Agency/Attorney. I have went to their website and read each of their "exec team's bios." No where do I see any mention of any of them being an attorney. I have disputed this with TU & Exp in writing, by certified mail and not on-line, which both received on Thursday, 12/06/18, because I honestly do not who the OC is. I guess my question is, when the disputes come back as verified, as I'm guessing they will, what are my options considering all the other info indicates it is still within the SOL. I am assuming I will begin to get letters or phone calls from them. But.... and this is the interesting part What is really interesting is the TL also says "Acct Info Disputed by Consumer; <Placed for Collections> I have not disputed anything on my credit reports since some time in 2014 (?). "Placed for collections: 04/29/18" Date Item to be Removed: 04/2024 (which indicates an original date of sometime in 2017) ????? (Confused? I am) And the balance seems to be increasing over time a few dollars per month. Original Creditor: Medical Any help/advice/opinions will be greatly appreciated (I may not be able to get back here immediately to respond to anyone but will return soon). Thanks in advance. You don't really have to waste your time reading their bios but I am pasting them below anyway. (No law degrees) page address: https://www.wakeassoc.com/management/ Matt Laws Pres & CEO: Mr. Laws has an undergraduate degree in computer science and an MBA from the University of Dallas. COO: Mr. Boettcher is active in the legislative arena locally and nationally with ACA International and Associated Collection Agencies, Inc. Mr. Boettcher also has extensive experience in the acquisition and management of defaulted consumer debt portfolios. CFO: He holds a B.S. Degree in Business from the University of Tennessee and has over 30 years of diversified business experience in both public practice and industry, including 21 years with RRC Wakefield. Chief Relationship Officer: He holds a B.S. Degree in Finance from the University of Tennessee, is a member of the International Fellowship of Certified Collection Executives, Healthcare Financial Management Association, University Sertoma Club, and is a member of ACA’s Future Leaders. Prior to the RRC Wakefield merger, Gregg served in the dual role of President and Chairman of the Board of Directors of RRC. Chief Business Development Officer: Tyler is an acknowledged expert in several areas of medical collections including ambulance, surgical centers, hospitals, and radiology. Mr. Marsh has assumed the responsibility of growing and managing the relationships with our clients, with great success. Chief Compliance Officer: (blah blah blah... Debra holds an MA in Organizational Management from the University of Phoenix and a BA in English and Secondary Education from Iowa State University. Debra is also a Professional Collection Specialist(ACA), a Trainer Specialist, and holds ACA’s Scholar and Fellow Degrees in Collection Business Management. In 2009, Debra earned ACA International’s Credit and Collection Compliance Officer Designation. Director of IT: Kevan holds degrees undergraduate degrees in mathematics and history. Again, NO ATTORNEYS!!
  7. Hi, there was a wells fargo account credit card account that was charged off years ago in 2011 but the accounts last payment is showing 2013. here are some more details: Account Status Closed Payment Status Charge-off Status Updated Oct 1, 2013 Usage 125% Balance $1,498 Balance Updated Jan 2, 2019 Last Year I received an IRS letter stating that I didn't report the charged off amount as income for my 2016 taxes. Wells Fargo cancelled the debt and sent it to the IRS on the last day of the year in 2016. As soon as i received the letter i paid the debt in full. Here's where I'm stuck on how to proceed. My credit report still shows the full charged off amount even though I paid it to the IRS when requested and i cant get it removed no matter how many times a dispute it. According to experian the account will be removed from my credit report at the end of this year in 12/2019. I need some more information because I don't want to do anything have the clock be reset on when the account will be removed. ( I'm afraid of a situation where if any new information is inputted resulting to a reset of the 7 year rule) Should I give up and wait for the account to be removed? Or should I press further and keep trying to have it corrected. And if I were to do so, what is the best way of going about it? Thank you so much for the help.
  8. I have a $126 "Paid" collection dated Nov 2013 on my credit reports. If it is relevant, I'm not sure if I paid directly to the CA ("Med Data Sys") or directly to the hospital. I am wanting to know what steps I can take at this point. I've read through WhyChat's links (geez, what an awesome resource!) but I am still unsure exactly what I need to do. It seems like I could send the wrong letters (or in the wrong order) and screw things up. Thanks in advance for any help!
  9. Hello! The day after Christmas, I checked my EQ report and found that a particularly scummy CA that's known for this practice dropped a collection on my previously clean report. It's an alleged payday loan from 7/2012. The CA has never contacted me in any way. I see from my research that reporting a collection on a report is considered to be first contact. Since then, it's been added to TU too. As I craft my dispute, I wanted to confirm a few things and how to word and prioritize the items on my dispute letter. 1. The date it was assigned was 12/19/18. 2. The date it was reported was 12/24/18 (obviously, this doesn't allow for the 30-day dispute process, but if reporting on a report is first contact, that may be moot...?) 3. Since that first contact, including allowances for the holidays, I have not received the required dunning letter within 5 days of first contact. 4. In reading the April 22, 2017, post from ICanHasMuny? on this thread (link at the end of the post), this type of account shouldn't even be reported: "EX TU an EQ won't accept the following information from furnishers effective june 2016 - so if you have this type of information still on your reports, DISPUTE IT OFF ... check cashing companies payday loan companies" I'm pretty hacked off about this... the DOFD is 7/2012. I don't have an exact date yet. I appreciate any guidance on disputing this, especially regarding the wording and citations. I haven't had to deal with any negatives in a few years, and this was a shock. Thanks very much!
  10. Last year our baby was moved to NICU the day after born claiming for infections and was advised that baby would need a week of medication and observation. Baby showed significant improvement from third day and all the medical apparatus were removed other than monitors. During the last two nights on baby's hospital stay we were informed that we can spend time with baby in normal room which we agreed to and was handed to us without no medical apparatus including monitors. We were told baby will be taken for medication in the morning and in the evening. Left facility after paying wife's charges. Later received 2 separate bills for the baby one from NICU hospital facility and other from NICU care which they charged for all 7 days at NICU rate without excluding the last 2 days. Also the baby was admitted on first day in the evening and they even charged full day for that. My insurance paid them and left with my portion. I disputed these 2 bills wrote letters and called but all went in vain I requested for health records and the medicine administration sheet doesn't show any medication after 4th day but in a different notes other than medicine administration sheet it was written they will be continuing the medication till day 7. Reached out medical facility and NICU care about the discrepancy and they kept claiming to be billed correctly. I have received a letter from CA about the NICU care charges and mentioned that NICU care has asked to report the charges to CRA. I am willing to dispute with CA and using this letter for dispute to start with --> https://whychat.me/ltrcaval.html Please advise if i am going in right direction.
  11. I just got served by the local Sheriff's department a judgement notice on a debt that was discharged on my Ch. 7 filing from 2012. It is from a law firm so what do I need to do? Send a copy of the chapter 7 to the local sheriff's office and law firm? And can I counter sue on any grounds of this group trying to collect on this debt? Just looking for some guidance. v/r TennesseeTee
  12. Hello I have a Collection Account on Transunion from Plaza Services and apparently they only report to TU. I have never recieved a dunning letter from them or any letters. I have lived in the same address 15 years. I sent Plaza Services a letter for proof etc with no word back and disputed with TU. TU came back as verified today with no other explanation etc. I could use help from here as I haven't had this happen before with a dispute. Thanks
  13. Living in Texas and law firm has Texas address. Was contacted by Rausch Sturm law firm who say they are representing portfolio recovery associates. They list the original owner of debt as Barclays credit card so I know it’s real. I want to pay the debt. It isn’t past the 4 year statute in Texas because original debt is from 2016. However, They do not indicate an offer. They just indicate I can contact them via phone or mail to discuss options. Should I wait till they make an offer? Should I call them or write a letter? I’ve seen websites discussing advantages of both calling and mailing so I’m not sure. I can afford to pay as much as 2000 of the listed 10k. Or can I do some kind of hardship payment plan? The law firm haven’t offered either option. Portfolio Recovery did, but I guess these guys have the debt now, so should I make a first offer or wait?
  14. Not a newb to credit scores, but newb to this board, hello all... I'm sure i'm not the only one that has gotten those offers in the mail offering to settle a debt for 1/4 to 1/2 of what is owed. The question comes up of, these offers i've received seem good and all, but they're from 3-4 years ago. I know ~7 years is when stuff starts falling off, so granted I won't need an immediate hike in my score anytime soon, would it make more sense to continue to refuse to pay any of them, and be better off just doing the wait game for them to fall off in a few years? Thoughts?
  15. Hello all, I am new here and hope I can get help understanding more about credit repair and scores. I am in the process of cleaning up my credit file in order to get a better credit score. I have collections accounts and charge off showing on my reports. I have a total of 5 collections showing on Exp, Tru, and 4 on Eq. I have send a pay for deletion offer and I am waiting for the response. I would like to know how many points I should expect to see increased if and once deleted. Right now i have a 610 Equ, 578 Trans, and 560 Exp. All 5 collections are 1 year or less old. The charged off account show 0 balances on Equ, but still show a balance on Truns, and Exp. Can i get some insight on how I can get my reports cleaned up. Trying to refinance my mortgage Thanks in advance
  16. Hi guys I am newer to this forum and have been reading up on some topics for a while. However there is so much information I am a little lost. I am trying remove some of my collection accounts from my credit score which is currently low 500. I would like to fix up my credit to better myself. I have collections accounts posted with three companies 1) One is with Portfolio for sync bank. I disputed it previously on my report but that didnt work. I set up payment with the company and gave them my information. I have made 2 payments so far but have a year to pay them. It is too late to ask for a delete after payment is finished? Should I continue to pay them. They served me papers so instead of going to court i decided to pay. The account is a little over a year old. 2)The second is a comcast bill sent to colllections. The comcast bill is about 2 years now. I havent contacted them on this one. 3)The third is a sprint bill placed in collections as well. I havent contacted anyone or filed any disputes. 4) I also received a bill florida red light ticket from January 2017. Should I pay it before it shows up on my report? Should I dispute it? I am in Maryland by the way I would really like some advice on what steps to take. I am in a better financial situation now and would really like to improve my score. Any help is appreciated.
  17. Basically, I'm wondering if it's worth it to pay collections if they don't accept my pay for delete offer to pay the entire bill. How will my score be affected if I pay it? Collections said the status would become paid in full. I'm dealing with Frontier communications (isp) and Credit Control Corp. Corp claims they are a 3rd party and that they do not ever sell the debt and that they're not exactly a collections agency. But they're the one's who reported a past due bill on to 2 of my 3 credit beaurues accounts. And everyone I've talked to there claim that their policy is to never ever delete anything. I asked what if someone is innocent, and their response was that it doesn't "ruin" their credit. These are the steps I've taken: Got fresh copy of all 3 credit reports Requested removal from experian (deleted) and equifax (not deleted) Requested proof of debt twice (they claimed they sent it twice, but I looked pretty diligently for it) Talked to 4 different reps and 1 supervisor, left voicemail for 2 other supervisors but never got a call back. Recorded most conversations and stated I was recording. Sent a pay for delete letter stating I'd pay the whole thing in exchange for deletion and that my offer is valid for 15 days.
  18. Hi, New here, hope someone can answer my question. I'll be as brief as possible, if you need more info let me know. This is what has happened. In August 2018 I received a letter from a collection agency for a debt of $126.05 that was not mine. I checked my credit score and it had dropped 30 points. I disputed the debt thru Credit Karma and called the collection agency to verify the debt. Within the next day my score increased 30 points. Sept. 26 2018 I received a letter from the collection agency saying that they were unable to resolve my request because they need additional information. Documentation may include: SS#, Acct.#. Disc. of error, Dollar amount in question. On the same day I received that letter, I received a letter from a different collection agency stating that the account has been placed with their office for collection. My credit score hasn't changed since the 30 down, 30 up. Should I do something or just leave it alone. Thanks in advance for any advice.
  19. Hi Everyone, I recently posted about being sent a 30 day letter in regards to a deficiency balance on a vehicle loan. It was sent from a local attorneys office on behalf of a local credit union. I sent back a DV letter and within a few days I received an envelope full of information such as copies of all documents that were sent. It looks like they are pretty well put together. One thing that I am also worried about is they enclosed some collection documents for a delinquent credit card with the same credit union. My first question is... is a credit card an oral or written contract? In my state the SOL for oral is 4 years and written is 5 years. I looked at credit and the credit card is reporting a last payment date of February 2014 so I am either out of SOL or very close to being out of it. My 2nd question is in regards to the vehicle deficiency. The CU sent me a letter after the auction that is titled "Notice of Deficiency" The numbers do not add up on it though. Here is a quick breakdown. Debt Amount $4,083.86 Less Sales Price: $2,600 Sub-Total $1,483.86 Plus Costs: Repo: $350 Auction Sales Fee: $347.50 Sub-Total of Costs: $996 (This doesn't add up to me?) Total Deficiency: $2,479.86 (This is the amount they are trying to collect from me for plus daily interest) If you use the Subtotal they list, the numbers work out right but the problem is that there are no other fees listed anywhere and the fees to not add up to the Subtotal of closing costs. Will their mistake be something that I can use to get out of this situation? If not then what should my next step be? Thanks in advance for all of the help, I know that it takes a lot of time to respond so I appreciate it.
  20. Hello, I had a Sears/Citibank account deleted from all 3 credit bureaus. Eventually, it reappeared under a Collectors called Midland Funding yet it's the exact account that the bureaus deleted. I tried sending them a copy of the deletion telling them it's the same account but they didn't remove it. I was wondering if you can guide me on how to solve this... I sent a letter to the collector too but you know how they are. I just don't want to be wasting my money on certified mail and notarizing for nothing. How to make sure that a deleted account doesn't reappear again once it was successfully disputed and removed from all credit reports.
  21. I work with a gentleman that had dealings with First Data (credit card company). He had a balance ($2500 or so) that was eventually sent to collections. Hunter Warfield now has the account and is obviously demanding funds. Ive tried to advice my co worker about options and now he says that Hunter has sent a letter that if he pays in full, that First data will delete. I have been a member of this board for 14 years, though the last 10 have been quiet for myself. I know that pay for delete options are few and far between with CA but I would like to post the letter sent to see if this is something that he should pursue or ignore. *since I cant seem to figure out how to post attachemts, I'll retype the letter* Dear *******, Please allow this letter to serve as formal confirmation that the delinquent tradeline reporting on your credit report from First Data Global Leasing will be deleted upon receipt of the funds in the amount of $2,517.35. Once the funds are received, Hunter Warfield will notify First Data of receipt, and inform them to process the deletion. Sincerely, blah blah blah Thanks to all in advance
  22. Today I received a 30 day letter from a local collection attorney who is handling a deficiency balance from a voluntary surrender auto loan with a local credit union. The balance is a little over 2k. Should I respond to this with a DV letter or would I be better off leaving this alone? A while back the credit union sent me a letter showing the breakdown of what I owed after the auction. I noticed that they must have manually added up the numbers owed. They had a breakdown of all of the fees and they clearly did not add the fees up correctly and were collecting on a larger total than what the numbers showed. I am not sure if that really matters or not? Thanks in advance for the help.
  23. I have been trying to reach United Bank for 2 months now after bogus collection call to my wife. Checked her credit and definitely something fishing going on. First letter send to address on Credit report. Return because bad address. Disputed on her credit so they changed address. Second letter... is Return to Sender again. Waiting for letter still after 30 days with USPS. Second address is confirmed their address via web searches and google maps. Recommendations?
  24. Looking for some clarification regarding the process. I have sent each of the CRAs the initial dispute letter for a single account on my credit report that I am disputing per https://whychat.me/hipaadisp.html I have received a response back from all 3 saying they were verified/valid with NO documentation provided or proof it's my account. My next step is (https://whychat.me/ltrcavalhipaa.html-unpaid) correct me if I'm wrong is to send 3 letters to the Collection Agency. What do I put in the PM# field? Do I put in the PM# of the currents letter I am sending to them or something else? ABC Collections 123 NotOnYourLife Ave Chicago, IL Date: _________ PM#____________ Re: Acct # XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX And do I have to wait 30 days to follow up dispute? Or can I send these once the Collection Agency receives it? https://whychat.me/ltrcavalhipaa.html#DISPUTE Thanks for the help.
  25. I just rec'd a letter from TU stating my dispute for a collection that is over eight years old came back verified. History: In 2016 I came to terms with the dreaded reality I needed to look at my credit reports. I paid for a TU credit report online and saved it in a PDF file. It showed an open collection with a JDB with an estimated drop off date of 3/2017. There never was any payment history reported; only OPEN DATE of 4/22/2014. It did in fact drop off my credit report. Fast forward to last month it was reinserted on TU with a new JDB with all the same information showing no payment history but the same OPEN DATE. And now TU says it will remain on my credit report until 2021. Here's the problem: the reported account numbers between these JDB's are completely different with xxxx at the end but all the rest of the information is identical. I am positive this is the same collection and it has been re-aged and is way past the 7 year, 180 days CR timeline. Does this make sense that the acct #'s are different? Does this happen where the acct numbers are different? And no I do not have any statements from the OC. Thank you in advance for your time and patience.

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