thelowpriceleader
Sep 17 2009, 09:51 PM
Some months ago, I encountered a post office requiring ID. I've never had another post office ever want ID, and I've been to many post offices in a number of states. They attempted to show me their policy that said they do not accept unsigned/See ID cards and said that was where it said they required ID. I asked where it said it. They had no answer but said it was their policy. I called the 800 number and eventually got given a phone number for a district consumer affairs office. I called there, spoke to someone, who seemed aware of unsigned card policy but not on signed cards, and emailed copies of the Visa/MC rules to that person. That person said a suggestion would be sent to the office to stop asking for ID.
Flash forward to a few days ago. I return to the SAME post office. Now they have the unsigned card policy (photocopy) posted in a plastic sign holder sitting on the counter. I pull out my card and am again asked for ID. I refuse it and tell them my card is signed and this time the plastic sign holder is taken and dropped in front of me. I asked where it says on there that ID is required. The clerk reads it and shrugs but says that is their rule. I ask for the manager. Someone from the back comes out and looks at my card then tells me no credit card without ID and that is our policy and it says it right there and points at the plastic sign. I ask her where on the sign it says they require ID. She reads it and is speechless. She then shows it to the clerk. The clerk says "it doesn't say it on there." The manager insists it is policy and says my card will not be accepted without ID. I told the manager I want to see it in writing that they require ID for signed credit card use. The manager disappeared into the back for a few minutes and comes back and says she doesn't have anything. I advise the manager I will be contacting the consumer affairs office regarding this incident, and the manager isn't phased. They refused to accept my card, but gladly handed it right back to me.
I immediately called the consumer affairs office again and the person took a message stating that she thought everywhere required ID but she'd give it to her supervisor to look into it.
The next day, I received a call from the supervisor of the consumer affairs, and returned that call. I got someone else when I returned the call, who transferred me to someone else, who said he didn't think they require ID if it is signed but that they can't tell the other post offices what to do but he gave me a second phone number to call about it. I called the second number and left a message for the "manager of post office operations and marketing." Meanwhile, I received a call back from the supervisor of consumer affairs who couldn't find anything but noted personal experience using credit cards and never understood why some merchants ask for ID always, some ask sometimes, and some never ask. I think I managed to convince that person they weren't supposed to be asking at all and that was the point of the signature panel and signing the card. That person emailed the regional office (Denver) to request an official policy. Shortly thereafter, I received a call back from the "assistant of the manager of post office operations and marketing." This individual continually read me the USPS "unsigned card" policy that states two forms of ID are required and the customer must sign the card. I explained that policy is for unsigned cards at which point this person claimed they have worked for the USPS for 25 years and it has always been USPS policy to require ID. I told her I would like to see in writing a policy that says they require ID for signed cards. She offered to fax or email me a policy. I never received any fax or email.
The next day, I received a message from the supervisor of consumer affairs advising me that directive had arrived from Denver that they were not supposed to be asking for ID with signed cards and the policy had been misread by the assistant to the manager of post office operations and the manager at the station where I had the issue. I was further told that they spoke to the station and the station will discontinue the practice of asking for ID.
This was one of the more difficult complaints to get resolved. I'm pretty surprised.
Uncle Leo
Sep 17 2009, 10:18 PM
Now go back and report what happens.
green2408
Sep 17 2009, 11:54 PM
So funny.
The exact same thing happened to me at my post office. I had a big fuss about it with the manager, mostly because she was so snotty. I finally got someone at the regional office to tell me that the manager at the post office was wrong and I insisted that the manager call ma and apologise, She did, but then about a year later the same thing happened. I did the same thing, but this time I had them write me a letter.
I advise you to get themn to write a letter acknowledging the correct procedure. That seems to help them remember it.
GEORGE
Sep 18 2009, 10:29 AM
MY POST OFFICE HAS A SIGN SOMETHING LIKE THIS...
YOUR CREDIT CARD MUST HAVE YOUR SIGNATURE ON THE BACK...IT IS REQUIRED
BY YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY...WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCEPT UNSIGNED CREDIT CARDS=======================
(Typed from scratch)
NOT COPY and PASTE THAT A SELECT FEW HERE HAVE AN UN-NATURAL FEAR OF.....
KYBOSH
Sep 27 2009, 03:54 AM
Post Offices are usually the most vigilant above signatures on the back and not asking for ID.
I have seen a customer scream at a postal worker and storm out for not accepting a signed CC.
Even if my CC has squiggly lines on the back... I NEVER get asked for ID at post offices.
Then again, how many credit card fraudsters will risk getting caught buying stamps or sending a letter or two?
dot
Sep 29 2009, 09:50 AM
They may not be required to do so, but what prevents them from doing so? They are cutting down on fraudulent transactions in that particular area.
GEORGE
Sep 29 2009, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (dot @ Sep 29 2009, 08:50 AM)

They may not be required to do so, but what prevents them from doing so? They are cutting down on fraudulent transactions in that particular area.
ASKING FOR ID ON SIGNED CREDIT CARD IS PROHIBITED BY THE POLICY THEY AGREED TO"IF" you don't want to have you signature on the back of the card...
DON'T APPLY FOR ONE
hurricanesfans27
Sep 29 2009, 10:48 AM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 29 2009, 10:40 AM)

QUOTE (dot @ Sep 29 2009, 08:50 AM)

They may not be required to do so, but what prevents them from doing so? They are cutting down on fraudulent transactions in that particular area.
ASKING FOR ID ON SIGNED CREDIT CARD IS PROHIBITED BY THE POLICY THEY AGREED TO"IF" you don't want to have you signature on the back of the card...
DON'T APPLY FOR ONEUSPS is supported by the government. Visa cant tell the government what to do so the USPS can check for id if they want to and there is nothing visa will do
GEORGE
Sep 29 2009, 11:04 AM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 29 2009, 09:48 AM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 29 2009, 10:40 AM)

QUOTE (dot @ Sep 29 2009, 08:50 AM)

They may not be required to do so, but what prevents them from doing so? They are cutting down on fraudulent transactions in that particular area.
ASKING FOR ID ON SIGNED CREDIT CARD IS PROHIBITED BY THE POLICY THEY AGREED TO"IF" you don't want to have you signature on the back of the card...
DON'T APPLY FOR ONE USPS is supported by the government. Visa cant tell the government what to do so the USPS can check for id if they want to and there is nothing visa will do
WHY RAISE THE PRICE OF STAMPS SO OFTEN???THey keep on saying they are
"SELF" supporting
hurricanesfans27
Sep 29 2009, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 29 2009, 11:04 AM)

QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 29 2009, 09:48 AM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 29 2009, 10:40 AM)

QUOTE (dot @ Sep 29 2009, 08:50 AM)

They may not be required to do so, but what prevents them from doing so? They are cutting down on fraudulent transactions in that particular area.
ASKING FOR ID ON SIGNED CREDIT CARD IS PROHIBITED BY THE POLICY THEY AGREED TO"IF" you don't want to have you signature on the back of the card...
DON'T APPLY FOR ONE USPS is supported by the government. Visa cant tell the government what to do so the USPS can check for id if they want to and there is nothing visa will do
WHY RAISE THE PRICE OF STAMPS SO OFTEN???THey keep on saying they are
"SELF" supporting
dumb question ask the usps not me
Resplendence
Sep 29 2009, 01:03 PM
QUOTE
I was asked for ID at a post office once. I called the 800 number and was told that this was against postal regulations. They asked if my card was not signed and at first said that was why I was asked but went on to say they do not accept unsigned cards. I explained that my card is signed. A report was taken and that location is no longer asking for ID.
green2408
Sep 29 2009, 03:26 PM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 29 2009, 07:48 AM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 29 2009, 10:40 AM)

QUOTE (dot @ Sep 29 2009, 08:50 AM)

They may not be required to do so, but what prevents them from doing so? They are cutting down on fraudulent transactions in that particular area.
ASKING FOR ID ON SIGNED CREDIT CARD IS PROHIBITED BY THE POLICY THEY AGREED TO"IF" you don't want to have you signature on the back of the card...
DON'T APPLY FOR ONEUSPS is supported by the government. Visa cant tell the government what to do so the USPS can check for id if they want to and there is nothing visa will do
Actually, that seems not to be true since I have a letter from the regional management office of the USPS admitting that their policy is to not require supplemental identification as per the credit card policy, and they are sorry for any difficulty I experienced, and the manager has been instructed to retrain the agents in the proper procedure.
dot
Sep 29 2009, 04:03 PM
So it seems that anyone can ask, but they can't deny to run the transaction on the basis if you refuse to provide an ID. Seems reasonable and reminds me that around Christmas time Wal-Mart where I live asks for ID's with credit cards, but when I didn't have mine they still ran the transaction.
thelowpriceleader
Sep 29 2009, 06:30 PM
"Seems reasonable and reminds me that around Christmas time Wal-Mart where I live asks for ID's with credit cards, but when I didn't have mine they still ran the transaction."
They followed the rules. Still, asking for ID is a waste of time when they cannot refuse the transaction on that basis.
GEORGE
Sep 29 2009, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (dot @ Sep 29 2009, 03:03 PM)

So it seems that anyone can ask, but they can't deny to run the transaction on the basis if you refuse to provide an ID. Seems reasonable and reminds me that around Christmas time Wal-Mart where I live asks for ID's with credit cards, but when I didn't have mine they still ran the transaction.
READ THE SCREEN
COMPARE SIGNATURE
IT DOES NOT SAY ASK FOR CUSORMER'S ID
THE SIGNATURE ON THE BACK OF THE CARD IS THE ID
Uncle Leo
Sep 30 2009, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (thelowpriceleader @ Sep 29 2009, 06:30 PM)

QUOTE
"Seems reasonable and reminds me that around Christmas time Wal-Mart where I live asks for ID's with credit cards, but when I didn't have mine they still ran the transaction."
They followed the rules. Still, asking for ID is a waste of time when they cannot refuse the transaction on that basis.
Yep. If they can't enforce it, why bother in the first place? Taken a step farther, if VISA/MC won't let them enforce it, why do they allow merchants to even ask?
thelowpriceleader
Sep 30 2009, 04:18 PM
My understanding is they can ask if they suspect fraud...
Of course, they can also ask on unsigned cards. I have been told there was some confusion regarding ID and unsigned cards and that is part of why the rules are worded how they are.
GEORGE
Sep 30 2009, 05:19 PM
QUOTE (thelowpriceleader @ Sep 30 2009, 03:18 PM)

My understanding is they can ask if they suspect fraud...
Of course, they can also ask on unsigned cards. I have been told there was some confusion regarding ID and unsigned cards and that is part of why the rules are worded how they are.
SO I STOLE THE CARD???
hurricanesfans27
Sep 30 2009, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 30 2009, 05:19 PM)

QUOTE (thelowpriceleader @ Sep 30 2009, 03:18 PM)

My understanding is they can ask if they suspect fraud...
Of course, they can also ask on unsigned cards. I have been told there was some confusion regarding ID and unsigned cards and that is part of why the rules are worded how they are.
SO I STOLE THE CARD???looks that way
GEORGE
Sep 30 2009, 05:40 PM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 30 2009, 04:34 PM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 30 2009, 05:19 PM)

QUOTE (thelowpriceleader @ Sep 30 2009, 03:18 PM)

My understanding is they can ask if they suspect fraud...
Of course, they can also ask on unsigned cards. I have been told there was some confusion regarding ID and unsigned cards and that is part of why the rules are worded how they are.
SO I STOLE THE CARD???looks that way
FEEL FREE TO KEEP THE CARD...I will tell the credit card company that the business
THEFTED my card and I need another one sent
FEDERAL EXPRESSI use it daily...I sould not have to wait a week to use the card
hurricanesfans27
Sep 30 2009, 06:22 PM
just like here their playground their rules.
hegemony
Sep 30 2009, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 30 2009, 04:22 PM)

just like here their playground their rules.
have you ever been in a sandbox only to find some cat crap?
GEORGE
Sep 30 2009, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:22 PM)

just like here their playground their rules.
So they don't have to follow the
CREDIT CARD RULES they agreed to follow???
hurricanesfans27
Sep 30 2009, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 30 2009, 06:47 PM)

QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:22 PM)

just like here their playground their rules.
So they don't have to follow the
CREDIT CARD RULES they agreed to follow???
its the govt in proxy they dont follow any rules clueless one
GEORGE
Sep 30 2009, 06:56 PM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:54 PM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 30 2009, 06:47 PM)

QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:22 PM)

just like here their playground their rules.
So they don't have to follow the
CREDIT CARD RULES they agreed to follow???
its the govt in proxy they dont follow any rules clueless one
WBOTM
Sep 30 2009, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Sep 30 2009, 05:19 PM)

QUOTE (thelowpriceleader @ Sep 30 2009, 03:18 PM)

My understanding is they can ask if they suspect fraud...
Of course, they can also ask on unsigned cards. I have been told there was some confusion regarding ID and unsigned cards and that is part of why the rules are worded how they are.
SO I STOLE THE CARD??? GEORGE, for someone who claims to carry a copy of the merchants rules, you obviously have a special or outdated version. There is no mention of
GEORGE stealing a card in my copy.
thelowpriceleader, you are correct. Merchants are permitted to request and/or require identification in certain circumstances. Excerpts from the 2009 MasterCard Rules and 2009 MasterCard Chargeback Guide:
* For unique transactions processed in a face-to-face environment (with the exception of truck stop transactions and card-read transactions where a non-signature CVM is used),
request personal identification of the cardholder in the form of an unexpired, official government document. Compare the signature on the personal identification with the signature on the card.
* Unsigned Cards: Obtain an authorization from the issuer;
Ask the cardholder to provide identification (but not record the cardholder identification information); Require the cardholder to sign the card (
The card acceptor must not complete the transaction if the cardholder refuses to sign the card.)
* Suspicious Cards: If the card acceptor believes that there is a discrepancy in the signature, or if the last four digits of the account number on the front of the card do not match the four-digit truncated account number on the signature panel or displayed on the terminal,
or if the photographic identification is uncertain, the card acceptor must contact its acquirer for instructions. If any unexpired MasterCard card does not have a MasterCard hologram or MasterCard HoloMag, the card acceptor must pick up the card and contact its acquirer’s Code Ten operator to advise it of the pick-up and to receive mailing instructions.
* Additional Cardholder Identification: ...A Merchant
may require additional identification from the Cardholder if the information is required to complete the Transaction, such as for shipping purposes...
Panorama
Oct 1 2009, 01:08 AM
And it is also against postal regulations to ask for ID with signed credit cards.
Uncle Leo
Oct 1 2009, 09:45 AM
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thelowpriceleader
Oct 1 2009, 02:37 PM
You need to review the transaction types that MC describes as a "unique transaction." A standard merchandise purchase at a retailer does not qualify. Oddly, truck stop fuel desk transactions are considered a "unique transaction" however as you see in the terms, the truck stop fuel desks are not allowed to require the ID...
Truck stop fuel desk transactions are the closest thing under MC's list of "unique transactions" to a standard merchandise purchase.
GEORGE
Oct 1 2009, 05:03 PM
"IF" YOU FEEL SPECIAL...SHOW YOUR ID
I WILL CONTINUE TO NOT SHOW ID
hurricanesfans27
Oct 1 2009, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (Uncle Leo @ Oct 1 2009, 09:45 AM)

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WBOTM
Oct 1 2009, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (thelowpriceleader @ Oct 1 2009, 02:37 PM)

You need to review the transaction types that MC describes as a "unique transaction." A standard merchandise purchase at a retailer does not qualify. Oddly, truck stop fuel desk transactions are considered a "unique transaction" however as you see in the terms, the truck stop fuel desks are not allowed to require the ID...
Truck stop fuel desk transactions are the closest thing under MC's list of "unique transactions" to a standard merchandise purchase.
thelowpriceleader, yes, I know what a unique transaction is. There are also other types of merchants in addition to truck stops where identification may be requested/required for unique transactions (e.g., cash, quasi cash, money transfer, gambling, etc.).
I am against showing identification; however, a well-informed consumer knows when a merchant is permitted to request and/or require identification.
Requesting identification
is not against the merchant rules.
Requiring identification to complete a transaction
is against the merchant rules unless specifically permitted.
Time to go report my local Fry's Electronics again.
GEORGE
Oct 1 2009, 07:41 PM
ASK FOR ID TILL THE COWS COME HOME IF YOU FEEL THE NEED
I'M STILL NOT THE ONE WHO IS GOING TO BACK-OFF
thelowpriceleader
Oct 2 2009, 12:27 AM
I can only think of a few merchants that "request" but do not "require" ID. I've come across a few though. They seem to be businesses that eventually stop asking. Maybe they post my photo in the back room with a note that says don't ID thelowpriceleader, it will cause you trouble.
I will no longer just hand over my ID. I will press these businesses for a written policy and will not show them ID to use my card. Fortunately I don't come across too many problem businesses anymore, though there seems to be an ongoing new group of noncompliant folk.
GEORGE
Oct 2 2009, 12:37 AM
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Oct 1 2009, 04:15 PM)

QUOTE (Uncle Leo @ Oct 1 2009, 09:45 AM)

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LAUGH AWAY...do you win anything???
ProfessorMom
Oct 10 2009, 11:20 PM
Why am I having to get into it about this so much lately??? Geesh! We ate at one particular place that asked for ID and I refused. They said it's their district manager's rule and I said that their district manager does not override Visa/MC policies and either you accept my signed card or tell Mel, your DM, that he'll be treating us to dinner.

They accepted my card. The next two times (over a two month period) I got hassled and I referred to Mel by name and said that he's still no more special than he was last time and I'm not forking over my ID.
What happened tonight just takes the cake. I haven't shopped in a WalMart since the springtime so we decided to go to one to see the "people of WalMart", as it kind of cracks me up when I see them here. Anyway, the cashier proceeds to offer to ring things up for less if my husband gives him $100 cash. I let him know that he could lose him job for that and he laughs it off and says he'd do a lot of things for $100. OK, kid, whatever. Next thing I know, he wants my ID. Are you frickin kidding me??? You just informed me that you'd happily steal from your employer and now you want MY personal information? NOT going to happen. I simply said, "I don't have to give you my ID and I'm not." He said he had to have it so I told him he'd better call his manager or we'd be standing there for quite some time holding up the line. The Customer Service Manager came over and said I had to have it. She gave me the crap line about "for your protection" and I told her I don't need her protection. I opened my purse, pointed inside to cards, and said, "I do have my ID but I'm not showing it to you." Stupid people. We went back and forth and I insisted that she compare my signature. She said, "If you think that matches well enough for you then whatever."
What is the number to call to report these fools? As for the cashier tonight, he'll be reported to the store manager on Tuesday. Absolutely unacceptable.
GEORGE
Oct 10 2009, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (ProfessorMom @ Oct 10 2009, 10:20 PM)

Why am I having to get into it about this so much lately??? Geesh! We ate at one particular place that asked for ID and I refused. They said it's their district manager's rule and I said that their district manager does not override Visa/MC policies and either you accept my signed card or tell Mel, your DM, that he'll be treating us to dinner.

They accepted my card. The next two times (over a two month period) I got hassled and I referred to Mel by name and said that he's still no more special than he was last time and I'm not forking over my ID.
What happened tonight just takes the cake. I haven't shopped in a WalMart since the springtime so we decided to go to one to see the "people of WalMart", as it kind of cracks me up when I see them here. Anyway, the cashier proceeds to offer to ring things up for less if my husband gives him $100 cash. I let him know that he could lose him job for that and he laughs it off and says he'd do a lot of things for $100. OK, kid, whatever. Next thing I know, he wants my ID. Are you frickin kidding me??? You just informed me that you'd happily steal from your employer and now you want MY personal information? NOT going to happen. I simply said, "I don't have to give you my ID and I'm not." He said he had to have it so I told him he'd better call his manager or we'd be standing there for quite some time holding up the line. The Customer Service Manager came over and said I had to have it. She gave me the crap line about "for your protection" and I told her I don't need her protection. I opened my purse, pointed inside to cards, and said, "I do have my ID but I'm not showing it to you." Stupid people. We went back and forth and I insisted that she compare my signature. She said, "If you think that matches well enough for you then whatever."
What is the number to call to report these fools? As for the cashier tonight, he'll be reported to the store manager on Tuesday. Absolutely unacceptable.
LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE CARD
LOOK AT THE SIGNATURE SLIP
COMPARE
FOR MY PROTECTION...MY ID STAYS IN MY WALLET
improper_validation
Oct 11 2009, 12:33 AM
QUOTE (ProfessorMom @ Oct 11 2009, 12:20 AM)

Why am I having to get into it about this so much lately??? Geesh! We ate at one particular place that asked for ID and I refused. They said it's their district manager's rule and I said that their district manager does not override Visa/MC policies and either you accept my signed card or tell Mel, your DM, that he'll be treating us to dinner.

They accepted my card. The next two times (over a two month period) I got hassled and I referred to Mel by name and said that he's still no more special than he was last time and I'm not forking over my ID.
What happened tonight just takes the cake. I haven't shopped in a WalMart since the springtime so we decided to go to one to see the "people of WalMart", as it kind of cracks me up when I see them here. Anyway, the cashier proceeds to offer to ring things up for less if my husband gives him $100 cash. I let him know that he could lose him job for that and he laughs it off and says he'd do a lot of things for $100. OK, kid, whatever. Next thing I know, he wants my ID. Are you frickin kidding me??? You just informed me that you'd happily steal from your employer and now you want MY personal information? NOT going to happen. I simply said, "I don't have to give you my ID and I'm not." He said he had to have it so I told him he'd better call his manager or we'd be standing there for quite some time holding up the line. The Customer Service Manager came over and said I had to have it. She gave me the crap line about "for your protection" and I told her I don't need her protection. I opened my purse, pointed inside to cards, and said, "I do have my ID but I'm not showing it to you." Stupid people. We went back and forth and I insisted that she compare my signature. She said, "If you think that matches well enough for you then whatever."
What is the number to call to report these fools? As for the cashier tonight, he'll be reported to the store manager on Tuesday. Absolutely unacceptable.
You should report the store to WalMart corporate.
http://walmartstores.com/contactus/feedback.aspx
Uncle Leo
Oct 18 2009, 08:46 AM
Now, seriously, who joins a group like CB and their FIRST POST is shilling the VISA 800 number for ID checking?
radi8
Oct 18 2009, 11:19 PM
QUOTE (Uncle Leo @ Oct 18 2009, 08:46 AM)

Now, seriously, who joins a group like CB and their FIRST POST is shilling the VISA 800 number for ID checking?

How many guesses would you like? Is "3" two more than necessary?
GEORGE
Oct 18 2009, 11:23 PM
radi8
Oct 19 2009, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Oct 18 2009, 11:23 PM)

Traffic cops. Looking for a rogue Continental.
Uncle Leo
Oct 19 2009, 08:44 AM
QUOTE (radi8 @ Oct 19 2009, 01:36 AM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Oct 18 2009, 11:23 PM)

Traffic cops. Looking for a rogue Continental.

I did like the Ford luxury car theme he had going for awhile, though.
GEORGE
Oct 19 2009, 11:09 AM
QUOTE (radi8 @ Oct 19 2009, 12:36 AM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Oct 18 2009, 11:23 PM)

Traffic cops. Looking for a rogue Continental.

Uncle Leo's job is not
POST POLICE
1-800-VISA-911 is still factual any way you spin it
But
Contintental or anybody else stating that fact makes it
INTO A LIE???
[OFF SOAP BOX]shilling<---
radi8
Oct 19 2009, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Oct 19 2009, 11:09 AM)

Uncle Leo's job is not POST POLICE
No, but if we're gonna get technical then again your job isn't "post police" police either.
GEORGE
Oct 19 2009, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (radi8 @ Oct 19 2009, 10:39 AM)

QUOTE (GEORGE @ Oct 19 2009, 11:09 AM)

Uncle Leo's job is not POST POLICE
No, but if we're gonna get technical then again your job isn't "post police" police either.

Only way I saw it was because of the "QUOTE"
Been on
ignore for a long time
GEORGE
Oct 19 2009, 12:26 PM
IGNORE 1-800-VISA-911 ALL YOU WANT
It won't hurt me
You can even ignore HARD INQUIRES if that floats your boat
breeze
Oct 19 2009, 12:31 PM
George!
GEORGE
Oct 19 2009, 12:43 PM
Shilling for 1-800-VISA-911 is bad on
--->VISA MC policies
Good thing the poster was not on
GDF
breeze
Oct 19 2009, 02:34 PM
It is against TOS to register a new ID for the purpose of evading admin actions. It is not what he posted, it is the fact that he is using multiple ID's. The other members realized that it was really Continental, just like they would know if you registered a new ID and started posting here.
Whether you like it or not, we have to have rules, George. Why do you argue with us every time we do something? We keep people from attacking you - and you go around posting an argument whenever an admin posts, even if they are defending you.
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