http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1711887

Uh huh, and.....?

did you bother to read?

Still not sure of the point you're trying to make. A dishonest person perpetrated identity theft snf credit card fraud. The fact that one clerk in one store followed her and got her license number because she wouldn't show her ID didn't prevent her from charging thousands of dollars in other stores and online. I never show my ID either and I would have done the same thing she did. If any clerk followed me out to my car they would be wasting their time. So what's the point.

This is exactly why I don't think it is a biggie to show identification. At least *some* fraud was prevented and we all pay for fraud blah blah blah.

I was asked for ID in L'Occitane the other day. I briefly thought of saying something and then realized that I just don't care that much.

That was a rare incident. ID does almost nothing to prevent fraud.

And since when does a store clerk become an authority figure to paying customers ( not that she was one) ? Where does this mentality of "show me your papers" end?

Any serious in-store crook will have fake ID.

FEEL FREE TO BEND-OVER AND SHOW YOUR ID

I STILL REFUSE

umm...I was not trying to make a point...I simply linked a story about someone who refused ID check. sorry but you really need to relax and not read my intentions into the story linked.

if you bothered to read my posts you would know that I AM NOT A CREDIT CARD THIEF THEREFORE I DO NOT SHOW ID.

The good ones just use your account number to create themselves a new card with matching ID.

I guess you wont be buying there George.

I can get them to BACK-OFF their stupidity

For that dollar amount I dont think so.

I have done it more than once

I don't know what you mean for "THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT" but what-ever..........

MY CARD IS SIGNED WITH MY NAME

I have a print-out of the credit card policy in my wallet in that place some carry that EXPENSIVE CASH

she tried to buy 5000 dollars worth of items and got turned down for REFUSING To show ID . no one said you had to use cash just show your id or god forbid write a check. Even your own company demands ID when buying goods over 100 dollars these days. What have you done to eliminate that?

ID required for CASH (MONEY GRAM) and MONEY ORDERS (over a certain amount)

ID required for a CHECK (random)

ID required for any large CASH SALE (merchandise) $X,XXX.XX

I show no ID every single time I spend over $100

Perpetuate the MYTH

its not a myth and they do it routinely at walmart.

also best buy likes the check ID for any credit card purchase as well. Ive left there with the stuff at the counter because I wouldnt show mine just in case you think im picking on walmart I figured I would include this as well.

Completely prohibited. Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly behaving store shapes-up and never asks for ID again.

Never show ID for credit card purchases.

No ID required for credit card purchases. Merchants cannot require ID.

If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.

VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069


Also easily report merchant violations online:

http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/c...violations.html

Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"


Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.

It stopped the fraud for that merchant, and as far as that merchant is concerned, that's major.

And the "show me your papers" analogy crap is just that... crap. Trying to compare asking for ID with a credit card purchase to serious and life and liberty threatening practices of Naziism and Aparthied is insulting and hyperbole of the highest degree.



How about the non-serious ones?



...and all people in prison are innocent.

I fully believe you are not a credit card thief, but a credit card thief would say the same thing.



Do you mean with CCs? I have not experienced that at W-M.



I once wrote BB's corporate HQ after I was asked for ID and received a letter apologizing and stating that this was not their practice. This was almost 4 years ago, though.



Hey Cont.

Wrong. The cashier can call in for verification, but cannot require ID.

I have seen cards denied many times, but cashier/security dont run after them. There must be something that shows on the screen lost or stolen card or retain customer.

so now the clerk is suppose to be law enforcement?

Im not saying that the visa requires the id and the company shouldnt but if they want to all you can do is say no and walk out they dont have to sell you anything and all you can do is walk and file a complaint. If walmart is doing what they want to do Visa and Mastercard arent going to say much as is obvious right now.

YOU CAN GO TO A STORE DAILY AND SPEND A TOTAL OF $5,000 OVER ONE MONTH AND IT IS NO BIG DEAL

BUT SPEND $5,000 IN ONE DAY AND IT IS A BIG DEAL
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$5,000/30 = $166.67/day average spend

Simply call 1-800-VISA-911. They will walk the violating cashier step-by-step through proper card acceptance procedure.

CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED

When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.

They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or photo ID.

Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement. The contract MasterCard merchants sign specifically prevents them from asking for personal ID.

Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard WorldWide 2000 Purchase St. Purchase, NY 10577 or call 1-800-300-3069. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine. You may also report violations online:

http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/c...violations.html

Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. Violations of Visa’s Operating Regulations result in fines of no less than $5,000. To report a merchant, write to Visa Inc. P.O. Box 8999 San Francisco, CA 94128-8999 or call 1-800-VISA-911.

American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization."

and you think a walmart manager will care about this? not in the store ive been to. maybe you can let bentonville know that their managers are not following the rules.

I have the policy in my wallet

EDUCATION IS FREE

Not listening will cost them more than a few $$$$$

Continental-cum-Towncar-cum-Credit Savvy.

I was expecting "Navigator" would be next in the series. Boy was I wrong.

Sorry I missed seeing that...NOT

or DURANGO

I notice this article was written about a store in Canada. Do they not have "chip and PIN" ?