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shanagain
I just wanted to remind *everyone* dealing with medical collections to read, read, read!

At first blush, people seem to want to PFD (been there, done that - and it was the right decision in one instance, and would've been disastrous and just flat expensive-for-no-reason in others), and find some combination of a 1-2 punch or JackAttack to dispute their med. baddies.

Usually, you'll find that WhyChat's detailed HIPAA process works not only the most effectively, but the most pro-actively to address these baddies and keep them from popping back up as "zombie debt."

http://whychat.5u.com/hipltr.html

Some key points that I think are helpful:

-If you do not already have paper copies, mailed from each CRA, get them now. Even the online "real" copy may have truncated information that will show on the full paper reports. It's worth waiting a few days for the US mail, trust me.

-Oh, and get used to it - the post office will be your new second home in a few phases of hipaa. Don't think you're the first that wants to bypass this - we all want to. But there's no way around it. Some things just need to get sent via the mail.

-Go ahead and Opt Out of promotional inquiries with the CRA's. The biggest reason to do this is to avoid JDB's (junk debt buyers) from trolling through your reports for zombie debt. There are companies that will even make up debt, using info. found on your reports - if at any point you feel like opting back in, you can - but for now, opt out.

-And start working on deleting old addresses. The CRA's frequently will validate debt solely on the fact that the CA has matching addresses. (Experian is a pain - aka, the devil - and will fight you the hardest on this. Expect it. )

-Hipaa is NOT about erasing legit debts owed. Just because I owed $100 to a doctor, and knew I forgot to pay him, does NOT mean that JunkDebtBuyerSystems,Inc has any right to collect that $100.

I'll stray off of my list here to explain that a bit. There are many ways that JDB's end up with your information. They may have a partnership with the OC, where any monies collected are shared with the OC. They may have bought old, written off debt for pennies - any money they receive will pad their pockets and will never go to the OC. Or they may be the worst of the worst - they may have trolled your reports, and dug up zombie debt that you simply do not owe or created new debt that never existed in the first place.

Where does hipaa fit into all of this? You have the right to keep your medical information and records private. And it's against federal law to violate your privacy. It's that simple.

But more important than what I'm typing here: READ. I don't just mean read WhyChat's dispute letters, I mean read these threads - as many as you can. WhyChat is absolutely amazing, and has helped.. well, there's no telling how many people! And while you are, indeed, as unique as a snowflake, chances are good that your situation is remarkably similar to someone three threads down.

Having said all of that (so much for quick and dirty, but I got you to read, ha!) please, please, PLEASE try to remember that we are trying to help, but are not actually beholden to do so. If you post and don't get an immediate reply, or even w/in a day or two - ask yourself why that might be the case. wink.gif

But don't be scared to ask when you start out or hit a stumbling point.
shanagain
QUOTE (shanagain @ Apr 9 2009, 10:33 AM) *
Having said all of that (so much for quick and dirty, but I got you to read, ha!) please, please, PLEASE try to remember that we are trying to help, but are not actually beholden to do so. If you post and don't get an immediate reply, or even w/in a day or two - ask yourself why that might be the case. wink.gif


Too late to edit, but wanted to add to this: Is the answer in a pinned topic? Is it covered in just about every thread? Do you need to remember your kindergarten manners? Being freaked out doesn't preclude being polite. WhyChat has recently expressed serious symptoms of burnout, in large part due to cranky posters.

To be blunt, we're fubared if WhyChat burns out!
DragonFlyer
This should be a sticky. good.gif

And I can totally understand why WhyChat would get burned out. The poor guy even has a free site with all the info and he still logs in to CB on a consistent basis to answer questions that come up.
shanagain
QUOTE (DragonFlyer @ Apr 9 2009, 11:21 AM) *
This should be a sticky. good.gif

And I can totally understand why WhyChat would get burned out. The poor guy even has a free site with all the info and he still logs in to CB on a consistent basis to answer questions that come up.


Thanks. And I understand too - heavy is the head the wears the crown!
shanagain
I just wanted to bump this, and add that there are a few of us here that try to help with the HIPAA process where we can - but if you see that "I'm" here (or one of the other "known friendlies" LOL) and haven't replied to your thread, we're probably deferring to WhyChat to ensure you get the best advice.
bonbonXO
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shanagain
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bonbonXO
TTT
shanagain
Just a quick bump, and a gripe. I'm waiting waiting waiting for a conclusion to a pre-hipaa dispute with Experian on an account that has tried it's best to become part of the woodwork. And I HATE waiting.

But I have a really good feeling that they're going to fold. It's just sooo slow with Exp.

Welcome to the Medical Forum, everyone! LOL

(So, is this officially a "bump & whined" post? smile.gif )
doinks
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bonbonXO
Here is the best place to start reading for help with medical collections
http://creditboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=175055
Another great resources is the search feature here on CB, many questions that are asked have already been answered in previous post.
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