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webworm98
IHOP Threatens To Call The Police Because You Refuse To Show ID With Credit Card.


consumerist.

Can not believe they would call the police for not showing ID.

All the cop would do, is ask for ID. Then show the ID to the Merchant, it happens.
Lucky225
No law requiring me to show ID to a cop either, in Texas I'm only required to tell the officer my name, address and DOB. And I was *NOT* going to show my ID to the officer if he arrived.
Continental
Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly-behaving IHOP shapes-up and never asks for ID again.

Never show ID for signed credit cards purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases. Merchants cannot require ID.

If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.

VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069


Also easily report merchant violations online at:

http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/c...violations.html

Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"



Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases.

Make sure your community is 100% violation-free. smile.gif










MIDCITY
I'd have paid CASH !!
Jen23514
QUOTE(MIDCITY @ May 19 2008, 07:18 PM) *
I'd have paid CASH !!


you're missing the point
MIDCITY
No, I understand the point compeletely. i've witnessed stuff like this b4, and with all
the frustration one encounters by it, I'd have just said to hell with it and paid cash.

I wasn't trying to be flip or anything.
JohnP
QUOTE(MIDCITY @ May 20 2008, 11:01 AM) *
No, I understand the point compeletely. i've witnessed stuff like this b4, and with all
the frustration one encounters by it, I'd have just said to hell with it and paid cash.

I wasn't trying to be flip or anything.


Started posting this the other day but had to run...

Paying with cash is great and all. If you have cash. I'm a plastic only kinda guy, everywhere I go takes plastic, if it doesn't an ATM is usually handy that I can grab $10 or $20 out of without hassle.
Continental
CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED

When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.

They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or picture ID.

Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement.

Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard International, c/o Radio City Station, P. O. Box 1288, New York, NY 10101. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine.

Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. To report a merchant, send a letter to the bank that issued your Visa card.

American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization."








Need More RWHP
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.
BBQ123
Around where I live, the cops would show up and be pissed at the manager for calling them out because the manager is too stupid to know how to swipe a credit card.
webworm98
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ Jun 22 2008, 02:10 PM) *
Around where I live, the cops would show up and be pissed at the manager for calling them out because the manager is too stupid to know how to swipe a credit card.



He needs to get one of those self-swipe machines. However, if he is that bad. He would not know if the self-swipe machine may have be tampered with. Sounds like that place needs to go back to cash only or get a different manager.


I am surprised that Ihop corporation does not do anything. Myself, I always wanted to try Ihop pancakes. If I ever do, I will bring cash and I will refuse to give my drivers license mainly because I am not going to use a card. The closest Ihop is 45 minutes away from my location.
BBQ123
QUOTE(webworm98 @ Jun 22 2008, 02:53 PM) *
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ Jun 22 2008, 02:10 PM) *
Around where I live, the cops would show up and be pissed at the manager for calling them out because the manager is too stupid to know how to swipe a credit card.



He needs to get one of those self-swipe machines. However, if he is that bad. He would not know if the self-swipe machine may have be tampered with. Sounds like that place needs to go back to cash only or get a different manager.


I am surprised that Ihop corporation does not do anything. Myself, I always wanted to try Ihop pancakes. If I ever do, I will bring cash and I will refuse to give my drivers license mainly because I am not going to use a card. The closest Ihop is 45 minutes away from my location.


Watch out... if you don't give a license the guy might call the cops thinking you're passing counterfeit bills!
Continental
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.



pryan67
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.


for what?

hlburi
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.


for what?



Because he is probably one of those fools who likes to keep police busy with inconsequential things so that they can't take care of real problems like robberies, shootings, etc.

He probably also calls 9-1-1 if the cashier doesn't give him the proper change...
pryan67
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 22 2008, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.


for what?



Because he is probably one of those fools who likes to keep police busy with inconsequential things so that they can't take care of real problems like robberies, shootings, etc.

He probably also calls 9-1-1 if the cashier doesn't give him the proper change...




Nah, that would be an FBI issue *LOL*



if you don't want to show ID...don't....refuse...if they refuse to accept the credit card without ID, then walk away...VERY simple solution....there's no sense making some cashier's life miserable



save that for the CAs in the world....THEY deserve it
hlburi
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:34 PM) *
if you don't want to show ID...don't....refuse...if they refuse to accept the credit card without ID, then walk away...VERY simple solution....there's no sense making some cashier's life miserable



save that for the CAs in the world....THEY deserve it



If you read this forum regularly, you'd think some people's sole purpose in life is to crusade for the Credit Card ID policy...

They may as well just don some chainmail, a smock with a blue cross on it and be following Charlemagne...
Uncle Leo
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:34 PM) *
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 22 2008, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.
Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.
for what?
Because he is probably one of those fools who likes to keep police busy with inconsequential things so that they can't take care of real problems like robberies, shootings, etc.

He probably also calls 9-1-1 if the cashier doesn't give him the proper change...
Nah, that would be an FBI issue *LOL*

if you don't want to show ID...don't....refuse...if they refuse to accept the credit card without ID, then walk away...VERY simple solution....there's no sense making some cashier's life miserable

save that for the CAs in the world....THEY deserve it


If I'm reading his post correctly, I think he's commenting on the policy of requiring minorities only to leave their ID at the counter to get service, even if they pay in cash. Ostensibly to keep minorities from doing the ol' "dine & dash" thing... as if they're the only ones that ever do that.

hlburi
QUOTE (Uncle Leo @ Nov 22 2008, 03:03 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:34 PM) *
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 22 2008, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.
Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.
for what?
Because he is probably one of those fools who likes to keep police busy with inconsequential things so that they can't take care of real problems like robberies, shootings, etc.

He probably also calls 9-1-1 if the cashier doesn't give him the proper change...
Nah, that would be an FBI issue *LOL*

if you don't want to show ID...don't....refuse...if they refuse to accept the credit card without ID, then walk away...VERY simple solution....there's no sense making some cashier's life miserable

save that for the CAs in the world....THEY deserve it


If I'm reading his post correctly, I think he's commenting on the policy of requiring minorities only to leave their ID at the counter to get service, even if they pay in cash. Ostensibly to keep minorities from doing the ol' "dine & dash" thing... as if they're the only ones that ever do that.



yeah...that is obviously wrong. But I still wouldn't call the police. What are they going to be able to do?

However, I WOULD call my attorney, the local media, the ACLU and anyone else I could think of. angel.gif
Uncle Leo
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 22 2008, 03:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Uncle Leo @ Nov 22 2008, 03:03 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:34 PM) *
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 22 2008, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.
Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.
for what?
Because he is probably one of those fools who likes to keep police busy with inconsequential things so that they can't take care of real problems like robberies, shootings, etc.

He probably also calls 9-1-1 if the cashier doesn't give him the proper change...
Nah, that would be an FBI issue *LOL*

if you don't want to show ID...don't....refuse...if they refuse to accept the credit card without ID, then walk away...VERY simple solution....there's no sense making some cashier's life miserable

save that for the CAs in the world....THEY deserve it
If I'm reading his post correctly, I think he's commenting on the policy of requiring minorities only to leave their ID at the counter to get service, even if they pay in cash. Ostensibly to keep minorities from doing the ol' "dine & dash" thing... as if they're the only ones that ever do that.
yeah...that is obviously wrong. But I still wouldn't call the police. What are they going to be able to do?

However, I WOULD call my attorney, the local media, the ACLU and anyone else I could think of. angel.gif


I'm not sure what the police could do themselves, other than be a credible documentation service for the next call to the local DA or state AG, or whomever.

pryan67
QUOTE (Uncle Leo @ Nov 22 2008, 03:03 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:34 PM) *
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 22 2008, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 03:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.
Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.
for what?
Because he is probably one of those fools who likes to keep police busy with inconsequential things so that they can't take care of real problems like robberies, shootings, etc.

He probably also calls 9-1-1 if the cashier doesn't give him the proper change...
Nah, that would be an FBI issue *LOL*

if you don't want to show ID...don't....refuse...if they refuse to accept the credit card without ID, then walk away...VERY simple solution....there's no sense making some cashier's life miserable

save that for the CAs in the world....THEY deserve it


If I'm reading his post correctly, I think he's commenting on the policy of requiring minorities only to leave their ID at the counter to get service, even if they pay in cash. Ostensibly to keep minorities from doing the ol' "dine & dash" thing... as if they're the only ones that ever do that.




right...but that's not a police matter...but rather a civil one...I was commenting on his suggestion to call the police, rather than on the alleged discriminatory policy
Continental
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 04:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.

Police first, then media etc..



pryan67
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 23 2008, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 04:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.

Police first, then media etc..



again...WHY call the police?

Why not call the ASPCA? They have as much say as the police for this matter
hlburi
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 23 2008, 03:42 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 23 2008, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 04:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.

Police first, then media etc..



again...WHY call the police?

Why not call the ASPCA? They have as much say as the police for this matter


Has he ever answered any of your questions?
pryan67
QUOTE (hlburi @ Nov 23 2008, 06:49 PM) *
QUOTE (pryan67 @ Nov 23 2008, 03:42 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 23 2008, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE (Continental @ Nov 22 2008, 04:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Need More RWHP @ Jun 1 2008, 09:05 AM) *
IHOP had a discrimination allegation against them a while ago when they seemingly required minority customers to have their driver's license put on impound while dining.

Immediately call the police if this ever happens again.

Police first, then media etc..



again...WHY call the police?

Why not call the ASPCA? They have as much say as the police for this matter


Has he ever answered any of your questions?



Good point...

I'm tempted to.....


nah.....I can't do that smile.gif
GEORGE
You anti Continental people (most of my ignore list) won't put him on ignore and continue to THROW MUD

You already said he is a BOT...yet you continue to ask him questions and DEMAND answers

wacko.gif

I don't get it................
GEORGE
Now back to TOPIC

Don't show ID on a signed credit card

No law says you have to
orangecrush
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Nov 24 2008, 05:24 PM) *
You anti Continental people (most of my ignore list) won't put him on ignore and continue to THROW MUD

You already said he is a BOT...yet you continue to ask him questions and DEMAND answers

wacko.gif

I don't get it................



If most of the ignore Continental people are on your ignore list, why do you continue to THROW MUD at them? I mean why don't you just ignore them and not mention them at all?


I don't get it................
GEORGE
QUOTE (orangecrush @ Nov 25 2008, 12:04 AM) *
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Nov 24 2008, 05:24 PM) *
You anti Continental people (most of my ignore list) won't put him on ignore and continue to THROW MUD

You already said he is a BOT...yet you continue to ask him questions and DEMAND answers

wacko.gif

I don't get it................



If most of the ignore Continental people are on your ignore list, why do you continue to THROW MUD at them? I mean why don't you just ignore them and not mention them at all?


I don't get it................

wacko.gif

People "QUOTE" I can ignore it how??????????????
orangecrush
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Nov 25 2008, 02:53 AM) *
wacko.gif

People "QUOTE" I can ignore it how??????????????



By not posting to or about them....wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
Towncar
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Nov 24 2008, 05:24 PM) *
You anti Continental people (most of my ignore list) won't put him on ignore and continue to THROW MUD

You already said he is a BOT...yet you continue to ask him questions and DEMAND answers

wacko.gif

I don't get it................

Continental should be immune to the ignore function.

Hell, the account should be requisitioned by staff and used to autopost in every thread in this forum involving ID, just like the Google ads are added.

Every time ID is demanded on a retail purchase, a violation has occurred. The procedure for handling violations, or the policy which prohibits ID requirements, have not changed one bit since this board was created.

The only thing "repetitive" are the horribly behaving merchants that CHOOSE to violate every single day. Those merchants need to shape up or be shut down.

100% of violations must be reported 100% of the time, or else more violators will spread and further poison their communities.

A community is FULL OF VIOLATIONS until it is 100% violation free.
Uncle Leo
QUOTE (GEORGE @ Nov 25 2008, 01:53 AM) *
People "QUOTE" I can ignore it how??????????????


You can put on your big-boy underpants and ignore people the old-fashioned way... don't respond.

Of course, you won't see this unless somebody else quotes it. laugh.gif
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