Whole Foods (numerous times now)
Fresh and Easy
Walgreens

I have only reported Citgo

Linens n' things
Kitchen Collection

MAC

Fresh and Easy? The ones I've been to were all self checkout.

Try contacting Whole Foods corporate office.

It sounds like those self checkouts at Fresh & Easy are misprogrammed just like the ones at Lowes, Albertsons, Wal Mart, etc in saying to check ID. NCR really needs to redo the programming on those because this is completely incorrect. Where is this Whole Foods located?

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&clie...n73eDg&cd=1

What a shame. I almost stopped at this store, but ended up skipping it. Now I wish I had stopped. I could have had some fun with them. Do they ID in all cases or only some cases?

they claim it is corporate policy. next time I am not taking my DL or state ID. let them call the cops.

You better have your ID on you should a cop show up. You will be going to jail. You may anyway because it happened to other people who refused to show id.

I use to be like others. After reading what happened to people after refusing ID. I will gladdy show ID when asked.

I really think the US needs to get chip & pin. This way no merchant will normally not ask for ID when using a pin.

Of course the people arrested for not showing ID were not attempting to use a credit card. They were being asked for ID for different reasons (suspected theft). There is a difference webworm. Now show me your papers. All of them. DL, SS Card, Birth Certificate, Bank Account Statements.

Not according to what I read on Credit Boards and what I read on other sites.

Dig through this forum and you will find some cases that they got the cops called on them and some were arrested.


Edit

Here is one of them but there are other stories.

http://www.wesh.com/news/14904960/detail.html

Um, that case didn't have ANYTHING to do with not showing ID; it had everything to do with the woman freaking out and walking out of the store in the middle of the transaction to take a phone call. Once the cashier ran the card, it came up as stolen; the cashier thought the customer was trying to flee, when in fact, the customer was taking a rather serious phone call. Where does ID enter the picture?

Google "best buy credit card taser" and you'll find more accurate accounts and video.

Just my local Papa Johns. Result: 3 weeks later, no ID was required

If it did really come up stolen. They should of called the Authorization Center for a Code 10 call. Not the cops.

I would not go outside in the middle of the transaction for a call. I would take the call right there if it was an emergency. I didn't see where she went outside to take a phone call. I would not leave the card at the register for the cashier to keep.

Wouldn't you get upset if using a valid credit card and it came up stolen? I would.

The point was, you might want to reconsider using this story as part of your reasoning that people should show ID-it doesn't supprt your claims at all.

If she showed ID to the Cops, nothing would of happened. Also, if she showed it to Best Buy they would of not called the cops. I did find an update. She was found not guilty.

According to witnesses she was not yelling. She was upset.

Update

Once again, where was ID mentioned? I see absolutely no mention of ID in ANY of these accounts.

You do understand that the officer is widely seen (in the court of public opinion, anyway) as having been in the wrong for tasering the woman, right?

ETA2: Everything I've seen has said that when the card was swiped, the code came back as a stolen card. I haven't seen anything to the effect of "she was being asked for ID to use the card".

Not what I have read. One story said it was just left on the counter and the cashier thought it was stolen because she ran out of the store. Show me a link where it said that the Best Buy swiped the card. I thought all Best Buy stores had pos terminals that the consumer swiped the card. I would get ticked if my card came up stolen, when it is a valid card.

If it did come back as stolen Visa & MasterCard needs to change that code. This way people will not get accused of a stolen card when it is not.



Yes, I know the cop was wrong. I am not disagreeing with that point.

The point is the story had nothing to do with ID and never did.

Never show ID for signed credit cards purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases. Merchants cannot require ID.

If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.

VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069


Also easily report merchant violations online at:

http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/c...violations.html

Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"



Never show ID for signed credit card purchases ever.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases ever.

you're on crack if you think not carrying ID results in an arrest. You need to move to Singapore.

That is rude and out of line. Have you ever been to Ohio Lately?

Do a search on google before making comments.

I may be wrong with that story but there are others that got arrested for refusing to show ID.

Actual, There was case (article is gone) where a man did get arrested for not showing ID at wal-mart and banned him from all stores. He sued and wal-mart settled. It took me a while to find that case because there was only one article on it.

To Continental or should I say George.

I am not going to start debating with you in this thread. We would never agree. I could prove you wrong but I am not going to. If you do not want to show an ID be my guest. I will keep showing id if asked.

Why would I consult google to know that you are smoking crack?

are you always a thread crapper? maybe you don't believe in the Constitution but I do.

congrats!

let's get this thread back on track.

So today I encountered something different. Radio Shack in the Springfield, VA mall. Made my purchase, I slid my card in the machine and before I signed my name the clerk asked, "what are the last 4 digits on the card you are using?" I really didn't get this?

don't some machines ask clerks to input the last four numbers?

Never asked for my card only last 4

A steadily decreasing number of merchants have a system where the last four numbers on the card are to be hand entered. Lowes comes to mind. Office Max also comes to mind. Circuit City does this as well (I hate to even bring them up in another thread; they are getting lots of free publicity out of all of us). Best Buy used to do this.

These systems are used to prevent both skimming and "bad card swipes."

hegemony, check your PM box.

Sometimes the machine prompt the merchants to enter that last 4 digits of the card. The reason the machine caught all the information except for the last 4 digits.




hegemony
I would say something but I would get suspended from credit boards for 3 days, so I won't but I do think you owe me an apology. Next time do a search on google.

arrested for not showing id

Yes, Continental most of those causes is not refusing to show ID to the merchant. I am just proving to hegemony for not having or showing an ID to officials that you can get arrested. I do not post unless I read it on the internet or heard it on the news.

Now. lets get this thread back on track.

Stop making things up Webworm.

Story had absolutely nothing to do with ID in any way whatsoever:

DAYTONA BEACH - The State Attorney's Office this afternoon decided not to prosecute the shopper a police officer stunned with a Taser inside the Best Buy store on International Speedway Boulevard.

Elizabeth Beeland, 35, a yoga teacher and holistic healer, was shopping at the electronics store on Nov. 26. As she went though the check-out line to pay for a gift she had purchased for her father, she received a disturbing telephone call from her husband regarding the couple's daughter.

Upset, Beeland stepped outside, leaving her transaction midway and her credit card with the Best Buy cashier. The cashier thought Beeland's behavior was odd and she flagged down a police officer who was already in the store investigating another credit card fraud case.

The casher told officer Claudia Wright that Beeland handed her a credit card and she wondered whether the card was stolen because the customer had gone outside without finishing the transaction.

Wright encountered Beeland just outside the store and told her to come back inside because there was a question regarding a credit card.

According to the officer's report, Beeland became agitated and began yelling and cussing at her.

At least one witness who saw both Beeland and Wright however, denied that Beeland screamed or cussed at Wright. After the two entered the store, Wright said Beeland continued to yell at her while Wright tried to question Beeland. The officer said she warned Beeland that she would be arrested if she did not stop yelling.

Beeland began moving away from Wright and moving her arms so that the policewoman could not handcuff her, according to a store surveillance video. Wright then warned Beeland that she would shoot her with her Taser unless Beeland stopped moving.

Seconds later, Wright is seen zapping Beeland in the stomach with the Taser. Beeland was then arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. The officer's actions were backed by Police Chief Mike Chitwood.

Friday, state attorney's spokeswoman Linda Pruitt said charges won't be pursued because there is no evidence that Beeland committed a crime.

We already discussed that, there not point in going over it again. If you would of read further down you would of seen this (Combined for your benefit)

I may be wrong with that story but there are others that got arrested for refusing to show ID to officials and later I provided a link for hegemony. She was claiming you could not get arrested for not showing ID to a law enforcement officers, and I provided a link to a google search showing otherwise.

Read all of the replies before you post your comment, thank you.

webworm, please us a toilet next time instead of a thread I started for a specific purpose. Or start your own thread on jack booted thugs demanding ID for credit card purchases. If you think I violated the TOS please presh the report button.

thanks for the PM

Starbucks still enters the last 4; or at least the ones I've been going to.

hegemony
Huh? You are confusing me. I never said I was for demanding ID for card purchases. I said I didn't mind showing id. There is difference. If you do not like what I post. Fill free to click my profile and choose ignore and I will do the same for you.

You purposively took this thread off topic and suggested I need to watch out for the police. This thread is was not intended to be about if you or anyone else minds showing id. I was merely starting a thread documenting the merchants I've reported. Why you decided to turn this thread into something it was not meant to be is not my problem. I could care less if you like to show ID. I don't show ID but obviously you fail to respect the opinions of others who think like me.

That a two way street. Yes, I do respect other opinions if they are accurate. Credit board should have accurate comments not misleading comment.

Actual it was you that took the thread off topic with this comment



In that case, I was not referring to have ID to a merchant, I meant if they called the cops you better have some sort of id on you for the cop not the merchant.

I never criticized you, I never called you names. I never accused you of taking crack. I been very civil, if somehow I accused you of anything bad. I am sorry hegemony.

I am not required to carry proper papers to prove who I am to the police. This is not Singapore.

In addition to the Visa/MC rules, Best Buy forbids employees from asking for ID. Double insurance against crooks and violations.

CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED

When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.

They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or picture ID.

Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement.

Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard International, c/o Radio City Station, P. O. Box 1288, New York, NY 10101. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine.

Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. To report a merchant, send a letter to the bank that issued your Visa card.

American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization."

Since I mainly use a visa and MC I now carry information from the two networks with me to educate crappy merchants.

To report call 1-800-VISA-911, press zero twice, and ask to file an "incident report" regarding a merchant violation/merchant who required ID. It's quick, easy, and fun! 1-800-VISA-911

Also report violation to MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069

and online at:

http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/c...violations.html

Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"


Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases.

Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.

Walgreens (again)

Lowes

Where is this LOWES located?
And where is this absurd Walgreens located?

I cannot fathom what kind of moron would try to pass off a stolen credit card at a Walgreens.

Nevada.

I suggest contacting corporate offices for both stores. Email wecare@lowes.com for Lowes. I don't know about Walgreens.

you can give the police your first and last name and address and they will look up your information. You should even learn your dl# by heart, but some people on here will swear that their license stays in the car, and isn't showed to any merchants or peace officers unless they were pulled over.

Excellent idea. Highly recommended.