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MarvBear-
Thanks for your information! I was planning on using the trade value of my 94 Civic (paid off- perhaps 1000-1500 value). Also, I have heard of some dealers using the spread between msrp and the deal price to enhance the perceived down payment (?). At this point, I may just keep the Civic going while I try and improve my FICO.
Forget_the_Odds:
This would only happen by way of allowing you more money on your trade in than it was worth. Therefore concievable to use spread betweet cost and msrp to reflect large trade in allowance.
But, the bank actually has no way of knowing if that car was actually yours to trade as they do not get the title to it, Only our word for it.
In some cases they might think even that someone gave you the auto, thereby NO investment from the consumer. When you got scores as low as you do they look heavily at LTV which can be altered by the "spread", but they take a close look at the CASH investment from the consumer.
Chances would be much better if scores were higher.
Hope I did not confuse you.