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BBQ123
The United States Postal Service will not accept a card that says "See ID" or "CID" or has a blank signature strip unless you present a photo ID and sign it in front of them. They seem to be one of the few merchants who properly follow the Visa/MC policy for a card that does not have a valid signature.

A story about that is here: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/creditcard.html

My local post office has a little sign that says credit cards that are not validly signed can't be accepted, and that unless the customer signs the card they will not be able to use it.

If only all merchants were as good as the USPS. (By the way, the USPS does not add surcharges or have minimums/maximums either. If you wanted to buy a single 39 cent stamp on a credit card they would have no problem with it -- heck if you wanted to buy a single 2 cent stamp they won't have a problem.)
BBQ123
By the way Visa has gone on record to say that they "do not accept 'see ID' as a valid substitute for a signature."
GEORGE
MORE....

WHY WOULD THE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES PRINT "VOID IF NOT SIGNED" IF THEY DIDN'T INTEND ON YOU SIGNING YOUR NAME???

Do you really think they just did it to waste INK???
BBQ123
I find it odd that the same merchants that will accept a void credit card won't take a check...
GEORGE
I'm waiting till some day somebody is on the 6:00 NEWS charged with some
crime and their name is--->CID or SEE ID or SEE LICENSE

THEY THEY WERE SO INTO THE BAHHHH SHEEP LIFE that they had their name LEGALLY changed...
BBQ123
If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...
GEORGE
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 20 2006, 08:23 PM) *
If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...

DOES IT SAY ONLY USE INITIALS???

Or does it say SIGN YOUR NAME???
Uncle Leo
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 20 2006, 09:23 PM) *
If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...


If that were your standard legal signature, it would be fine.

Side note: We just had a little love-fest going here, didn't we? rofl.gif

PS #2: Most every post office I've ever been in also has the same sign.

Addendum #3: Even IF credit card fees were substantial enough to cause a business to go under (not saying they are, just making a point), the post office would be a bad example. They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever. That's why they could care less if you only buy a 2 cent stamp.
xyzzy
QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 20 2006, 09:59 PM) *
They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever.

This is true, but the post office actually makes a net profit for the government. If that were to fail to be the case at some point, you can be sure there would be some political repercussions.
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GEORGE
I bought a sheet of $0.02 stamps when I did a CERTIFIED R/R

I wouldn't ever do a $0.02 purchase on purpose

(I DID AT A GAS STATION...TANK RAN OUT OF GAS AT $0.07)
Uncle Leo
QUOTE(GEORGE @ May 21 2006, 11:42 AM) *
I bought a sheet of $0.02 stamps when I did a CERTIFIED R/R

I wouldn't ever do a $0.02 purchase on purpose

(I DID AT A GAS STATION...TANK RAN OUT OF GAS AT $0.07)


Their tank? That's kinda funny, actually.
Uncle Leo
QUOTE(xyzzy @ May 21 2006, 02:10 AM) *
QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 20 2006, 09:59 PM) *

They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever.

This is true, but the post office actually makes a net profit for the government. If that were to fail to be the case at some point, you can be sure there would be some political repercussions.


Right. Technically, they are set up to be self-sufficient, and they are expected to be self-sufficient, and they tout that whenever they get the chance, but you know they should they ever lose money that something would be done to either tide them over or outright bail them out. Government institutions have a very poor history of closing their doors.
BBQ123
QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 21 2006, 12:59 AM) *
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 20 2006, 09:23 PM) *

If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...


If that were your standard legal signature, it would be fine.

Side note: We just had a little love-fest going here, didn't we? rofl.gif

PS #2: Most every post office I've ever been in also has the same sign.

Addendum #3: Even IF credit card fees were substantial enough to cause a business to go under (not saying they are, just making a point), the post office would be a bad example. They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever. That's why they could care less if you only buy a 2 cent stamp.


The USPS is not entirely a government organization. They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).
BBQ123
QUOTE(GEORGE @ May 21 2006, 12:42 PM) *
I bought a sheet of $0.02 stamps when I did a CERTIFIED R/R

I wouldn't ever do a $0.02 purchase on purpose

(I DID AT A GAS STATION...TANK RAN OUT OF GAS AT $0.07)


Myself I have never done a 2 cent purchase either. When I did need to get small-value stamps (when 1 oz first-class went from 37 to 39 cents) I went to the post office and just paid exact change in coinage (like 40 cents).
GEORGE
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 12:01 PM) *
QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 21 2006, 12:59 AM) *

QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 20 2006, 09:23 PM) *

If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...


If that were your standard legal signature, it would be fine.

Side note: We just had a little love-fest going here, didn't we? rofl.gif

PS #2: Most every post office I've ever been in also has the same sign.

Addendum #3: Even IF credit card fees were substantial enough to cause a business to go under (not saying they are, just making a point), the post office would be a bad example. They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever. That's why they could care less if you only buy a 2 cent stamp.


The USPS is not entirely a government organization. They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).

I spend way less money on POSTAGE then I did like 10 years ago

I PAY ON-LINE

WAY LESS CHECKS TOO

I pay like $100 or $200 to small utilities and let it ride...
BBQ123
QUOTE(GEORGE @ May 21 2006, 02:03 PM) *
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 12:01 PM) *

QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 21 2006, 12:59 AM) *

QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 20 2006, 09:23 PM) *

If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...


If that were your standard legal signature, it would be fine.

Side note: We just had a little love-fest going here, didn't we? rofl.gif

PS #2: Most every post office I've ever been in also has the same sign.

Addendum #3: Even IF credit card fees were substantial enough to cause a business to go under (not saying they are, just making a point), the post office would be a bad example. They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever. That's why they could care less if you only buy a 2 cent stamp.


The USPS is not entirely a government organization. They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).

I spend way less money on POSTAGE then I did like 10 years ago

I PAY ON-LINE

WAY LESS CHECKS TOO

I pay like $100 or $200 to small utilities and let it ride...



I bought a set of 20 37-cent stamps last year... still haven't finished with them.

Still on my first book of checks... after over 2 years.
GEORGE
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 12:08 PM) *
QUOTE(GEORGE @ May 21 2006, 02:03 PM) *

QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 12:01 PM) *

QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 21 2006, 12:59 AM) *

QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 20 2006, 09:23 PM) *

If my name was "Chris Igor Dotson" and I signed my card "CID" ... I wonder how legitimate that would be...


If that were your standard legal signature, it would be fine.

Side note: We just had a little love-fest going here, didn't we? rofl.gif

PS #2: Most every post office I've ever been in also has the same sign.

Addendum #3: Even IF credit card fees were substantial enough to cause a business to go under (not saying they are, just making a point), the post office would be a bad example. They're backed up by your tax dollars and they know they're never going out of business no matter what happens... ever. That's why they could care less if you only buy a 2 cent stamp.


The USPS is not entirely a government organization. They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).

I spend way less money on POSTAGE then I did like 10 years ago

I PAY ON-LINE

WAY LESS CHECKS TOO

I pay like $100 or $200 to small utilities and let it ride...



I bought a set of 20 37-cent stamps last year... still haven't finished with them.

Still on my first book of checks... after over 2 years.

I'm on BOX #3 of 4 (800 CHECKS)

I bought them in the late 1990's

or

Very early 2000's
Uncle Leo
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 01:01 PM) *
The USPS is not entirely a government organization.


On paper.

QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 01:01 PM) *
They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).


You don't really believe that, do you?
BBQ123
QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 21 2006, 02:58 PM) *
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 01:01 PM) *

They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).


You don't really believe that, do you?


Yes I do believe that.

The USPS is not the only way to send mail or a package (unless you are sending it to a P.O. Box).

If someone wanted to, they could send all their stuff FedEx, DHL, or UPS.
Uncle Leo
QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 06:27 PM) *
QUOTE(playthecreditgame @ May 21 2006, 02:58 PM) *

QUOTE(BBQ123 @ May 21 2006, 01:01 PM) *

They were kind of privatized a while back. USPS could go out of business if enough people stopped using them and went to the competition (DHL, FedEx, UPS).


You don't really believe that, do you?

Yes I do believe that.


Name the last U.S. government entity that was completely shut down and ceased to exist?
aireyc
Nothing new here, Craptial One strikes again...

http://www.capitalone.com/credit101/fraud/...D_R1_01_T_IDTFT

On page 3: "Sign your credit card or write that the merchant must 'check ID' on the back of the card."
GEORGE
QUOTE(aireyc @ May 21 2006, 11:25 PM) *
Nothing new here, Craptial One strikes again...

http://www.capitalone.com/credit101/fraud/...D_R1_01_T_IDTFT

On page 3: "Sign your credit card or write that the merchant must 'check ID' on the back of the card."

"CLOSE ANY ACCOUNTS YOU ARE NOT USING"

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I am not 100% sure that was WRITTEN BY CAPITAL ONE
BBQ123
QUOTE(aireyc @ May 22 2006, 01:25 AM) *
Nothing new here, Craptial One strikes again...

http://www.capitalone.com/credit101/fraud/...D_R1_01_T_IDTFT

On page 3: "Sign your credit card or write that the merchant must 'check ID' on the back of the card."


Capital One must have some idiots working for them as their advice is in direct violation of what Visa/MasterCard require.
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