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YoungMomof2
I posted this also on the credit forum...any advice would be helpful.

DH & I have put ourselves on a 2 year major clean up plan.

I have been reading the boards for about 3 weeks now and I am truly impressed.

We have several collections that we plan to either try and get removed or pay in full. (How do you determine which to do? I hear that it is worse if you settle the accounts rather than pay...true?

But my main concern is that I have defaulted student loans which take up a total of 8 tradelines (4 from original lender and 4 from guarantor). These loans are currently in rehabilitation, and upon final payment next March, all delinquent marks will be removed. I know that this is a good thing for my score, but how good?

We have our scores pulled this time last year and my score was 508 (FICO). I have not pulled this year. But, to go from worst (I-9 & collections) to first (never late) has to be pretty remarkable.

I also want to consolidate once this happens.

Our goal is to qualify for a home loan by January 2009.

Comments, please...

Thanks
LynnInMN
QUOTE(YoungMomof2 @ Apr 16 2006, 08:42 PM) *
But my main concern is that I have defaulted student loans which take up a total of 8 tradelines (4 from original lender and 4 from guarantor). These loans are currently in rehabilitation, and upon final payment next March, all delinquent marks will be removed.

Sorry but this is incorrect. All delinquent marks are not removed. The OC is under no obligation to remove their negative tradeline. And rehabs do not happen "upon final payment". Funding for a rehab could well take you past payment 13 ... some go to payment 14. From the date your loan is funded in rehab, the guarantor has 90 days to adjust your credit report.




Thanks
NAN101
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These loans are currently in rehabilitation, and upon final payment next March, all delinquent marks will be removed.


Not all delinquent marks will be removed. The default status will only be removed. The original tradelines removed. As the old delinquent marks age though they aren't so negative in terms of affecting your score.
jross1028
QUOTE(LynnInMN @ Apr 16 2006, 11:01 PM) *
QUOTE(YoungMomof2 @ Apr 16 2006, 08:42 PM) *


But my main concern is that I have defaulted student loans which take up a total of 8 tradelines (4 from original lender and 4 from guarantor). These loans are currently in rehabilitation, and upon final payment next March, all delinquent marks will be removed.

Sorry but this is incorrect. All delinquent marks are not removed. The OC is under no obligation to remove their negative tradeline. And rehabs do not happen "upon final payment". Funding for a rehab could well take you past payment 13 ... some go to payment 14. From the date your loan is funded in rehab, the guarantor has 90 days to adjust your credit report.


So the OC is not under obligation to remove their negative tradelines, does this mean that they will not no matter what?

Thanks

LynnInMN
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So the OC is not under obligation to remove their negative tradelines, does this mean that they will not no matter what?


The tradelines from the OC will naturally fall off 7 years after your default date. The government requires that all lenders and guarantors report accuately.
TxQuiltGirl
QUOTE(jross1028 @ Apr 19 2006, 12:07 PM) *
QUOTE(LynnInMN @ Apr 16 2006, 11:01 PM) *

QUOTE(YoungMomof2 @ Apr 16 2006, 08:42 PM) *


But my main concern is that I have defaulted student loans which take up a total of 8 tradelines (4 from original lender and 4 from guarantor). These loans are currently in rehabilitation, and upon final payment next March, all delinquent marks will be removed.

Sorry but this is incorrect. All delinquent marks are not removed. The OC is under no obligation to remove their negative tradeline. And rehabs do not happen "upon final payment". Funding for a rehab could well take you past payment 13 ... some go to payment 14. From the date your loan is funded in rehab, the guarantor has 90 days to adjust your credit report.


So the OC is not under obligation to remove their negative tradelines, does this mean that they will not no matter what?

Thanks





Typically no they don't.

However, I and others have had some success getting negative SL TL's removed through CRA disputes.
Stryker
TxQuiltGirl and/or LynnInMN,

Thanks for your help earlier. If I may, I'll piggyback on this question.

Being in garnishment now, I was told I'd be rehabbed after 9 months of over-and-above payments. After these, of course, garnishments will cease and the negatives removed (this is a federal loan).

If I pay these 9 payments early, say over a two month period, would this hasten the process? Would that end the garnishments there? I was told I could start sending in the extra today if I so wished.

Thanks for everything you do, and your advice in the past. It is all truly appreciated.
NAN101
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If I pay these 9 payments early, say over a two month period, would this hasten the process? Would that end the garnishments there? I was told I could start sending in the extra today if I so wished.


No, they have to be 12 monthly consistent payments for rehab. You can't make a year's worth of payments at once or extra payments. They have to be consistent over the period of a year. After six monthly payments, you are eligible to apply for education funds.
Stryker
QUOTE(NAN101 @ Apr 20 2006, 12:45 PM) *
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If I pay these 9 payments early, say over a two month period, would this hasten the process? Would that end the garnishments there? I was told I could start sending in the extra today if I so wished.


No, they have to be 12 monthly consistent payments for rehab. You can't make a year's worth of payments at once or extra payments. They have to be consistent over the period of a year. After six monthly payments, you are eligible to apply for education funds.


Thanks for the reply.

In my state, they just reduced it to 9 payments from 12. So I guess either way, I have to wait 9 months... which means they'll probably take my federal returns this year, right?
LynnInMN
Quilty....it is changing to 9 payments. Another July 1 change.
TxQuiltGirl
QUOTE(LynnInMN @ Apr 20 2006, 02:00 PM) *
Quilty....it is changing to 9 payments. Another July 1 change.



Figures; I rehabbed mine for twelve loooooooooooooooooong months so they changed it.
NAN101
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Quilty....it is changing to 9 payments. Another July 1 change.


Wow, I didn't see that ANYWHERE. I know interest rates are changing July 1. Does this only apply to newly initiated rehabs or those already in progress? (if you know). I'm going on my 4th payment.
Stryker
I think it includes those in the process, but I am far from the expert. T? L?
LynnInMN
QUOTE(NAN101 @ Apr 20 2006, 02:31 PM) *
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Quilty....it is changing to 9 payments. Another July 1 change.


Wow, I didn't see that ANYWHERE. I know interest rates are changing July 1. Does this only apply to newly initiated rehabs or those already in progress? (if you know). I'm going on my 4th payment.



http://www.nchelp.org/elibrary/DearPartner.../GEN-06-02A.pdf

Page 9....I can't get it to cut and paste!
Stryker
QUOTE(Stryker @ Apr 20 2006, 02:56 PM) *
QUOTE(NAN101 @ Apr 20 2006, 12:45 PM) *

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If I pay these 9 payments early, say over a two month period, would this hasten the process? Would that end the garnishments there? I was told I could start sending in the extra today if I so wished.


No, they have to be 12 monthly consistent payments for rehab. You can't make a year's worth of payments at once or extra payments. They have to be consistent over the period of a year. After six monthly payments, you are eligible to apply for education funds.


Thanks for the reply.

In my state, they just reduced it to 9 payments from 12. So I guess either way, I have to wait 9 months... which means they'll probably take my federal returns this year, right?



Lynn or Quilt: am I right here?
NAN101
Thanks, Lynn. It looks unclear though what happens to those already in rehab prior to July 1. If I'm reading correctly, those in rehab prior to July 1 will be at their discretion of whether to include them in that 9 month payment window.
jross1028
QUOTE(TxQuiltGirl @ Apr 19 2006, 01:26 PM) *
QUOTE(jross1028 @ Apr 19 2006, 12:07 PM) *

QUOTE(LynnInMN @ Apr 16 2006, 11:01 PM) *

QUOTE(YoungMomof2 @ Apr 16 2006, 08:42 PM) *


But my main concern is that I have defaulted student loans which take up a total of 8 tradelines (4 from original lender and 4 from guarantor). These loans are currently in rehabilitation, and upon final payment next March, all delinquent marks will be removed.

Sorry but this is incorrect. All delinquent marks are not removed. The OC is under no obligation to remove their negative tradeline. And rehabs do not happen "upon final payment". Funding for a rehab could well take you past payment 13 ... some go to payment 14. From the date your loan is funded in rehab, the guarantor has 90 days to adjust your credit report.


So the OC is not under obligation to remove their negative tradelines, does this mean that they will not no matter what?

Thanks





Typically no they don't.

However, I and others have had some success getting negative SL TL's removed through CRA disputes.



Thanks for your response. Were these standard disputes or did you find any particular techniques that work better for this situation?
TxQuiltGirl
QUOTE(Stryker @ Apr 20 2006, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(Stryker @ Apr 20 2006, 02:56 PM) *

QUOTE(NAN101 @ Apr 20 2006, 12:45 PM) *

QUOTE
If I pay these 9 payments early, say over a two month period, would this hasten the process? Would that end the garnishments there? I was told I could start sending in the extra today if I so wished.


No, they have to be 12 monthly consistent payments for rehab. You can't make a year's worth of payments at once or extra payments. They have to be consistent over the period of a year. After six monthly payments, you are eligible to apply for education funds.


Thanks for the reply.

In my state, they just reduced it to 9 payments from 12. So I guess either way, I have to wait 9 months... which means they'll probably take my federal returns this year, right?



Lynn or Quilt: am I right here?



Are you talking about your 2005 refund? Did you receive a notice for offset? You can check on that by calling ...
Stryker
QUOTE(TxQuiltGirl @ Apr 20 2006, 08:52 PM) *
Are you talking about your 2005 refund? Did you receive a notice for offset? You can check on that by calling ...


No, not this year.

I am starting the over and above payments now (April). That means at the earliest, 9 payments from now, they would have already notified the IRS that they were taking my refund for next year, right? I learned from NAN that I could not "speed" pay them to hasten my loans into rehab.
TxQuiltGirl
It's possible that they won't. I never was offset, even though I didn't start my rehab until September. As early as you're starting, you shouldn't be offset.
Stryker
QUOTE(TxQuiltGirl @ Apr 21 2006, 12:01 AM) *
It's possible that they won't. I never was offset, even though I didn't start my rehab until September. As early as you're starting, you shouldn't be offset.


Thanks a mil
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