dionx
Jul 15 2005, 09:36 PM
so i call Papa Johns Pizza (in San Diego) to place an order for carry out. i could have ordered and paid online via papajohns.com, but i had a physical coupon cheaper than what was posted. so when i arrive to the store, they have signs requiring government issued IDs for all credit card and check transactions and it's posted in the side counter as part of their procedure. i didn't feel like hassling the store today so i just showed ID, but just now reported them to mastercard. hopefully i can find online forms for Visa and Amex so i can report to them too. i realized i could have easily not shown ID and still got my way since the pizzas were already made. either that or they take a loss, but in a way it would have been a small loss for since i don't get the food i wanted.
it's stupid how they require ID for carry out, but if i were to call for a delivery or paid online, i wouldn't be asked for ID at all.
BBQ123
Jul 15 2005, 10:49 PM
You should have told them that they can accept it without the ID or have NO SALE.
Besides, there is better Pizza than papa Johns out there... but i see your point about not wanting to be bothered with having to go elsewhere.
dionx
Jul 15 2005, 10:52 PM
i personally prefer pizza hut as the best chain pizza, but i wanted to split the bill with my sister who wanted papa johns. i would have definitely walked if eating by myself.
GEORGE
Jul 15 2005, 11:40 PM
QUOTE(dionx @ Jul 15 2005, 08:36 PM)
so i call Papa Johns Pizza (in San Diego) to place an order for carry out. i could have ordered and paid online via papajohns.com, but i had a physical coupon cheaper than what was posted. so when i arrive to the store, they have signs requiring government issued IDs for all credit card and check transactions and it's posted in the side counter as part of their procedure. i didn't feel like hassling the store today so i just showed ID, but just now reported them to mastercard. hopefully i can find online forms for Visa and Amex so i can report to them too. i realized i could have easily not shown ID and still got my way since the pizzas were already made. either that or they take a loss, but in a way it would have been a small loss for since i don't get the food i wanted.
it's stupid how they require ID for carry out, but if i were to call for a delivery or paid online, i wouldn't be asked for ID at all.
IT IS PIF BEFORE I EVEN LEAVE THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!
(I ON-LINE ORDER)
I NEVER HAVE HAD TO SHOW ID...
IS THIS NEW?????????
GEORGE
Jul 15 2005, 11:47 PM
QUOTE(dionx @ Jul 15 2005, 09:52 PM)
i personally prefer pizza hut as the best chain pizza, but i wanted to split the bill with my sister who wanted papa johns. i would have definitely walked if eating by myself.
ORDER BOTH ON THE SAME DAY AND CHECK OUT THE BOXES...
LESS GREASE FOR PAPPA JOHNS
NOT THAT I WANT FAT FREE!!!!!!!!
dionx
Jul 15 2005, 11:50 PM
like someone said in another thread, san diego has alot of places that don't follow visa/mc terms. i think 80% of the places in SD will ask for ID. i usually don't show my ID when asked and still get my way. i just gave in too easily today.
Nummerkins
Jul 16 2005, 12:05 PM
Must be a regional or store policy. I just got some Papa John's yesterday (in MI) and the cashier had my CC for a total of maybe 5 seconds. Just swiped and threw it back to me.
ufjoe21
Jul 17 2005, 04:15 PM
Papa John's is wrong to ask you for ID, and if you're hungry enough to order pizza then you should just show ID and get your pizza because you're hungry
you can always file a complaint after you've had your pizza!
usually pizza is a small purchase so it's not a big deal, there are bigger more important purchases to fight over not showing ID
mmmm pizza, I'm gonna have to start cooking in a while I'm hungry!
gregcjackson
Jul 17 2005, 11:45 PM
QUOTE(dionx @ Jul 15 2005, 09:36 PM)
it's stupid how they require ID for carry out, but if i were to call for a delivery or paid online, i wouldn't be asked for ID at all.
Thats what I always say to all these people here who ENJOY showing ID.. If you order online, on the phone, or mail order- No one ever even sees your card, let alone ID. So why do they need it in person.
Personally I have only been asked for ID when I accidentally did not sign a new card. Then I showed ID and signed it right then. I have never been IDed for a signed card, but I'm sure ti will happen sometime. And I will refuse.
mrskippy
Jul 18 2005, 01:42 AM
With San Diego so close to Mexico (and the whole fear of terrorists crossing at that particular crossing), perhaps there is a reason they are asking for ID. You can never rule out VISA/MC doing their part for Patriot Act (after all the credit card companies are in bed BIG TIME with the Republicans). Hahahaha.
Seriously, Pizza Hut does it like this:
-- If you order online or call it in, they will ask for the 3-digit code (or 4-digit code for Amex) on the card. I believe you only have to do it once, unless you opt for a different card.
-- No ID is required upon delivery (at least I've never had it happen).
-- Your card is imprinted upon delivery. Some drivers have little portable devices. Others use a pen and the door to rub it.
-- ID will be required for a check purchase and they usually prefer either the DL or phone already imprinted (than they ask you to write in the other ahead of time).
-- They are one of the few to take cash, check or charge for delivery. Some places are strictly cash only for delivery (one place was seriously ripped off years ago and requires pickup for check/charge).
GEORGE
Jul 18 2005, 02:28 AM
QUOTE(mrskippy @ Jul 18 2005, 12:42 AM)
With San Diego so close to Mexico
(and the whole fear of terrorists crossing at that particular crossing), perhaps there is a reason they are asking for ID. You can never rule out VISA/MC doing their part for
Patriot Act (after all the credit card companies are in bed BIG TIME with the Republicans). Hahahaha.
Seriously, Pizza Hut does it like this:
-- If you order online or call it in, they will ask for the 3-digit code (or 4-digit code for Amex) on the card. I believe you only have to do it once, unless you opt for a different card.
-- No ID is required upon delivery (at least I've never had it happen).
-- Your card is imprinted upon delivery. Some drivers have little portable devices. Others use a pen and the door to rub it.
-- ID will be required for a check purchase and they usually prefer either the DL or phone already imprinted (than they ask you to write in the other ahead of time).
-- They are one of the few to take cash, check or charge for delivery. Some places are strictly cash only for delivery (one place was seriously ripped off years ago and requires pickup for check/charge).
THE FOOLS PATRIOT ACT IS A GOOD SCAPEGOAT FOR A LOT OF THINGS!!!
YOU CAN TRADE A PIZZA FOR AN AIRPLANE!!!
mrskippy
Jul 18 2005, 02:37 AM
QUOTE(GEORGE @ Jul 18 2005, 03:28 AM)
THE FOOLS PATRIOT ACT IS A GOOD SCAPEGOAT FOR A LOT OF THINGS!!!
YOU CAN TRADE A PIZZA FOR AN AIRPLANE!!!
sirona71
Jul 19 2005, 06:08 AM
QUOTE
i realized i could have easily not shown ID and still got my way since the pizzas were already made.
A little off the main topic but I thought this would be funny to share:
A friend of mine took a little girls softball team for ice cream after a game. They all ordered their ice cream cones and were sitting happily eating and he went to pay for the bill with a $50. They said they couldn't take a $50, lol. The bill was like $30-40 so it wasn't like he was paying for ONE ice cream, lol.
He says "well, what do you want me to do? They're all eating!" Kid says to give the ice creams back ROFLMAO. So all the girls had to line up and return their ice creams, lol. At which point the kid threw them all away.
What an idiot!
gregcjackson
Jul 19 2005, 01:05 PM
Hmm, Dont they have to accept a $50 because its legal tender?
GEORGE
Jul 19 2005, 01:53 PM
QUOTE(gregcjackson @ Jul 19 2005, 12:05 PM)
Hmm, Dont they have to accept a $50 because its legal tender?
$50 & $100 CAN BE
DENIEDWe did at the gas station YEARS AGO
(WE HAD SIGNS ON ALL THE PUMPS)
Some people still didin't understand...
We were
NOT a bank!!!
Same thing as a BUS has a right to
REFUSE all paper money...
Any business has a right to
REFUSE all pennies...
THERE WAS A LINK ABOUT REFUSING CERTAIN MONEY ON HERE BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ANY
HOMEWORK RIGHT NOW...
cljohnr
Jul 19 2005, 03:36 PM
QUOTE(GEORGE @ Jul 19 2005, 02:53 PM)
QUOTE(gregcjackson @ Jul 19 2005, 12:05 PM)
Hmm, Dont they have to accept a $50 because its legal tender?
$50 & $100 CAN BE
DENIEDWe did at the gas station YEARS AGO
(WE HAD SIGNS ON ALL THE PUMPS)
Some people still didin't understand...
We were
NOT a bank!!!
Same thing as a BUS has a right to
REFUSE all paper money...
Any business has a right to
REFUSE all pennies...
THERE WAS A LINK ABOUT REFUSING CERTAIN MONEY ON HERE BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ANY
HOMEWORK RIGHT NOW...
I think you missed the point of the original post. If you have an $11 food tab, they'd happily take a $20 and give you $9 change. If you have a $41 food tab, what's the difference in taking a $50? It's still $9 change. You're not acting as "a bank". I understand not wanting to give $30-40 change, but it's moot when the bill is above $30 on a $50.
mrskippy
Jul 19 2005, 08:34 PM
I would have told the guy to bend over and let everyone shove the ice cream up his arse.
nearly_there
Jul 19 2005, 09:13 PM
BTW.
Anyone who has ever lived in Chicago will tell you that Papa Johns is NOT THE BEST PIZA!!!
I miss those deep dish style pizzas....only pizza ever that was better re-heated...sort of like lasagna.
GEORGE
Jul 20 2005, 12:51 AM
QUOTE(cljohnr @ Jul 19 2005, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE(GEORGE @ Jul 19 2005, 02:53 PM)
QUOTE(gregcjackson @ Jul 19 2005, 12:05 PM)
Hmm, Dont they have to accept a $50 because its legal tender?
$50 & $100 CAN BE
DENIEDWe did at the gas station YEARS AGO
(WE HAD SIGNS ON ALL THE PUMPS)
Some people still didin't understand...
We were
NOT a bank!!!
Same thing as a BUS has a right to
REFUSE all paper money...
Any business has a right to
REFUSE all pennies...
THERE WAS A LINK ABOUT REFUSING CERTAIN MONEY ON HERE BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ANY
HOMEWORK RIGHT NOW...
I think you missed the point of the original post. If you have an $11 food tab, they'd happily take a $20 and give you $9 change. If you have a $41 food tab, what's the difference in taking a $50? It's still $9 change. You're not acting as "a bank". I understand not wanting to give $30-40 change, but it's moot when the bill is above $30 on a $50.
THEY COULD HAVE TAKEN IT FOR $30--$40...I WOULD HAVE!!!
For some reason they chose not to...
Same thing with my SUBWAY experience...they made the food BUT REFUSED TO SELL IT TO ME WITH-OUT ID ON MY SIGNED CREDIT CARD...THEIR LOSS!!!
coreytaz
Jul 28 2005, 07:22 PM
QUOTE(dionx @ Jul 15 2005, 08:36 PM)
hopefully i can find online forms for Visa and Amex so i can report to them too.
it's stupid how they require ID for carry out, but if i were to call for a delivery or paid online, i wouldn't be asked for ID at all.
Why did you pay with 3 credit cards? They could always come back at you and say you made a false statement and cost them fines. And they would have rock solid proof (Video cameras, credit card transaction).
dionx
Jul 28 2005, 09:09 PM
QUOTE(coreytaz @ Jul 28 2005, 05:22 PM)
QUOTE(dionx @ Jul 15 2005, 08:36 PM)
hopefully i can find online forms for Visa and Amex so i can report to them too.
it's stupid how they require ID for carry out, but if i were to call for a delivery or paid online, i wouldn't be asked for ID at all.
Why did you pay with 3 credit cards? They could always come back at you and say you made a false statement and cost them fines. And they would have rock solid proof (Video cameras, credit card transaction).
i'm not reporting charges for three cards. i'm reporting the situation to all three, but only my Amex card was used.
BBQ123
Jul 28 2005, 10:28 PM
Violators should be reported to all three (V/MC/Amex) and then also to your card-issuer.
PinkPeep
Jul 30 2005, 06:33 PM
I live in Ohio, and many stores are doing this now. I can pay at the pump for gas with no ID, If I go in I have to show it. Once I said "who are you? The Visa Police? The girl smirked and YELLED It is VISA's POLICY." Whatever
GEORGE
Jul 30 2005, 06:39 PM
QUOTE(poorme @ Jul 30 2005, 05:33 PM)
I live in Ohio, and many stores are doing this now. I can pay at the pump for gas with no ID, If I go in I have to show it. Once I said "who are you? The Visa Police? The girl smirked and YELLED It is VISA's POLICY." Whatever
SORRY...IT IS A VISA POLICY TO NOT ASK FOR ID ON A SIGNED CREDIT CARD!!!
LET'S CALL THEM RIGHT NOW!!!
BBQ123
Jul 30 2005, 10:47 PM
QUOTE(GEORGE @ Jul 30 2005, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE(poorme @ Jul 30 2005, 05:33 PM)
I live in Ohio, and many stores are doing this now. I can pay at the pump for gas with no ID, If I go in I have to show it. Once I said "who are you? The Visa Police? The girl smirked and YELLED It is VISA's POLICY." Whatever
SORRY...IT IS A VISA POLICY TO NOT ASK FOR ID ON A SIGNED CREDIT CARD!!!
LET'S CALL THEM RIGHT NOW!!!Report those idiots for violating policy and then trying to tell you checking ID on a signed card was policy.
gamine
Aug 8 2005, 03:09 AM
Back to Papa John's ...
We took a break the day before we moved out of Washington state. So, we're tired, sticky and so on, and got out of the house. We drove up to a Papa John's. We WALKED in, and they flatly refused to sell to us without us giving our telephone number first, even though we explained we were moving out of state the next day. DH gave them a number from when he lived in Boston, more than seven years ago, so we could eat a damn pizza.
That might not be legal, but that just proves it's all about the data (mining) to the company. Even Radio Shack doesn't force you to give your info anymore.
GEORGE
Aug 8 2005, 09:25 AM
QUOTE(gamine @ Aug 8 2005, 02:09 AM)
Back to Papa John's ...
We took a break the day before we moved out of Washington state. So, we're tired, sticky and so on, and got out of the house. We drove up to a Papa John's. We WALKED in, and they flatly refused to sell to us without us giving our telephone number first, even though we explained we were moving out of state the next day. DH gave them a number from when he lived in Boston, more than seven years ago, so we could eat a damn pizza.
That might not be legal, but that just proves it's all about the data (mining) to the company. Even Radio Shack doesn't force you to give your info anymore.
Not sure PAPA JOHN'S is part of the "SKIP TRACE" program BUT some PIZZA PLACES ARE...they are paid money for names and phone numbers by "SKIP TRACING/CA'S"
(so some have said)
(NOBODY lies when they give their phone number to the pizza place)
PIZZA HUT does that too...LIKE THE PHONE NUMBER UNLOCKS THE COMPUTER...NO PHONE NUMBER...NO ORDER
WHEN I GO ORDER (THEN AND THERE) AND PIF BEFORE IT IS DONE AND SIT DOWN FOR 20 MIN THEY USUALLY PUT THEIR OWN PHONE NUMBER IN...
cljohnr
Aug 8 2005, 01:26 PM
QUOTE(gamine @ Aug 8 2005, 04:09 AM)
Back to Papa John's ...
We took a break the day before we moved out of Washington state. So, we're tired, sticky and so on, and got out of the house. We drove up to a Papa John's. We WALKED in, and they flatly refused to sell to us without us giving our telephone number first, even though we explained we were moving out of state the next day. DH gave them a number from when he lived in Boston, more than seven years ago, so we could eat a damn pizza.
That might not be legal, but that just proves it's all about the data (mining) to the company. Even Radio Shack doesn't force you to give your info anymore.
Papa John's has their own proprietary computer system. You have to enter a phone number before you access the order fields. However, for walk in orders you can just press one of the function keys and it puts 999-999-9999 into the number field. Not sure why they insisted on the full number.
gamine
Aug 9 2005, 12:05 PM
George, what other companies participate in this skip tracing?
Yeah, if I were calling in, *that* makes sense to me, but I've usually had no problem doing walk-ins elsewhere (such as Radio Shack or a haircutter), having them put in a dummy number.
The young woman manning the PJ front desk was adamant, and claimed that her manager had said, "No phone number, no pizza."
hurricanesfans27
Aug 9 2005, 12:08 PM
give them 1-800- EAT S-IT
GEORGE
Aug 9 2005, 09:53 PM
QUOTE(hurricanesfans27 @ Aug 9 2005, 11:08 AM)
give them 1-800- EAT S-IT
I MEMORIZED THE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE AAA OFFICE...
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