As much as I hate miscellaneous fees and taxes at the airport, I would gleefully pay a marked up price for an adult-only flight. That not saying that adults aren't obnoxious, but I have little tolerance for anyone under 25, especially unruly brats.
Toddler Tantrum gets family booted from plane
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Islandgal
, Mar 09 2012 10:09 PM
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:16 PM
#52
Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:24 PM
There doesn't need to be a different solution for this problem than what's already in place. If the kid is unruly, parents & kid are booted from the flight and deal with lodging or booking a different flight and costs associated with doing so. If you don't like it, make sure your kid knows how to act or else don't fly. Simple.
#53
Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:28 PM
As much as I hate miscellaneous fees and taxes at the airport, I would gleefully pay a marked up price for an adult-only flight. That not saying that adults aren't obnoxious, but I have little tolerance for anyone under 25, especially unruly brats.
There is such a flight. It is called a private charter.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:31 PM
Society's just gone all to heck. Why, when I was little....
There were no airplanes????
Running for my life...
They had them, but ordinary people didn't fly on them.
Whatever happened to my six-shooters?
#55
Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:50 PM
Yep.There doesn't need to be a different solution for this problem than what's already in place. If the kid is unruly, parents & kid are booted from the flight and deal with lodging or booking a different flight and costs associated with doing so. If you don't like it, make sure your kid knows how to act or else don't fly. Simple.
#56
Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:47 PM
As much as I hate miscellaneous fees and taxes at the airport, I would gleefully pay a marked up price for an adult-only flight. That not saying that adults aren't obnoxious, but I have little tolerance for anyone under 25, especially unruly brats.
Agreed.
#57
Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:37 PM
There doesn't need to be a different solution for this problem than what's already in place. If the kid is unruly, parents & kid are booted from the flight and deal with lodging or booking a different flight and costs associated with doing so. If you don't like it, make sure your kid knows how to act or else don't fly. Simple.
Yep. My kid doesn't act up on flights. And I expect the same of other people's kids. Why should I, or other families with well behaved kids be forced to hear/deal with unruly hooligans?
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:11 PM
Just to play devil's advocate (since my kid is a great flier and always has been) - what about people who have otherwise well-behaved children that for some reason do not fly well at all? If the parent is pulling out every trick in the book to calm a crying kid and nothing is working - let's face it, you can't remove a toddler or baby from the situation when you're 30,000 feet in the air. Or, just as an example - my kid never ever had any external symptoms of ear infections (the 2 she had). Never tugged at her ear, never ran a fever, not congested, etc. Doctor said it was not uncommon. But I would imagine that if I'd taken her on a plane during one of those asymptomatic ear infections, she'd have lost her mind from the pain. What do you suggest a parent do in that kind of situation? It's not bad parenting, and it's not a failure to teach your kid how to behave. And you, the fellow traveler, wouldn't know any of this, you'd just be annoyed, right?
Note: this does not apply to kids acting foolish when the plane is on the ground, and is just being bratty. And I since I spend a lot of time on planes these days, I don't have a lot of patience for other people's kids on planes, either, and am usually that "I don't care about the reason, I'm annoyed" fellow traveler. I just wonder sometimes if there is an underlying reason.
Note: this does not apply to kids acting foolish when the plane is on the ground, and is just being bratty. And I since I spend a lot of time on planes these days, I don't have a lot of patience for other people's kids on planes, either, and am usually that "I don't care about the reason, I'm annoyed" fellow traveler. I just wonder sometimes if there is an underlying reason.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:26 PM
Just to play devil's advocate (since my kid is a great flier and always has been) - what about people who have otherwise well-behaved children that for some reason do not fly well at all? If the parent is pulling out every trick in the book to calm a crying kid and nothing is working - let's face it, you can't remove a toddler or baby from the situation when you're 30,000 feet in the air. Or, just as an example - my kid never ever had any external symptoms of ear infections (the 2 she had). Never tugged at her ear, never ran a fever, not congested, etc. Doctor said it was not uncommon. But I would imagine that if I'd taken her on a plane during one of those asymptomatic ear infections, she'd have lost her mind from the pain. What do you suggest a parent do in that kind of situation? It's not bad parenting, and it's not a failure to teach your kid how to behave. And you, the fellow traveler, wouldn't know any of this, you'd just be annoyed, right?
Note: this does not apply to kids acting foolish when the plane is on the ground, and is just being bratty. And I since I spend a lot of time on planes these days, I don't have a lot of patience for other people's kids on planes, either, and am usually that "I don't care about the reason, I'm annoyed" fellow traveler. I just wonder sometimes if there is an underlying reason.
There are underlying reasons like the one you just stated that crop up on occasion but one can reasonably assert that most of the preset day brattiness on airplanes (and in restaurants) is from bad parenting. And since we cannot make laws to account for every use case, the current option of making the parents pay for the brattiness of kids is a reasonable, though not optimal, solution.
#60
Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:06 PM
Y'know. It's gonna happen sometimes.Just to play devil's advocate (since my kid is a great flier and always has been) - what about people who have otherwise well-behaved children that for some reason do not fly well at all? If the parent is pulling out every trick in the book to calm a crying kid and nothing is working - let's face it, you can't remove a toddler or baby from the situation when you're 30,000 feet in the air. Or, just as an example - my kid never ever had any external symptoms of ear infections (the 2 she had). Never tugged at her ear, never ran a fever, not congested, etc. Doctor said it was not uncommon. But I would imagine that if I'd taken her on a plane during one of those asymptomatic ear infections, she'd have lost her mind from the pain. What do you suggest a parent do in that kind of situation? It's not bad parenting, and it's not a failure to teach your kid how to behave. And you, the fellow traveler, wouldn't know any of this, you'd just be annoyed, right?
Note: this does not apply to kids acting foolish when the plane is on the ground, and is just being bratty. And I since I spend a lot of time on planes these days, I don't have a lot of patience for other people's kids on planes, either, and am usually that "I don't care about the reason, I'm annoyed" fellow traveler. I just wonder sometimes if there is an underlying reason.
But I'd bet you can usually kind of tell if the parents are losers or if they are pretty good and that kid is just melting down for no good reason.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:55 PM
Just to play devil's advocate (since my kid is a great flier and always has been) - what about people who have otherwise well-behaved children that for some reason do not fly well at all? If the parent is pulling out every trick in the book to calm a crying kid and nothing is working - let's face it, you can't remove a toddler or baby from the situation when you're 30,000 feet in the air. Or, just as an example - my kid never ever had any external symptoms of ear infections (the 2 she had). Never tugged at her ear, never ran a fever, not congested, etc. Doctor said it was not uncommon. But I would imagine that if I'd taken her on a plane during one of those asymptomatic ear infections, she'd have lost her mind from the pain. What do you suggest a parent do in that kind of situation? It's not bad parenting, and it's not a failure to teach your kid how to behave. And you, the fellow traveler, wouldn't know any of this, you'd just be annoyed, right?
Note: this does not apply to kids acting foolish when the plane is on the ground, and is just being bratty. And I since I spend a lot of time on planes these days, I don't have a lot of patience for other people's kids on planes, either, and am usually that "I don't care about the reason, I'm annoyed" fellow traveler. I just wonder sometimes if there is an underlying reason.
I agree with Giraffy - I'm pretty forgiving if I see a parent genuinely trying to handle the situation.
The parents saying "Jeffy? Jeffy? Will you please stop screaming Jeffy? You're making Mommy very upset. I would really like it if you would stop. Please Jeffy, for me?" not so much.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:35 PM
Just to play devil's advocate (since my kid is a great flier and always has been) - what about people who have otherwise well-behaved children that for some reason do not fly well at all? If the parent is pulling out every trick in the book to calm a crying kid and nothing is working - let's face it, you can't remove a toddler or baby from the situation when you're 30,000 feet in the air. Or, just as an example - my kid never ever had any external symptoms of ear infections (the 2 she had). Never tugged at her ear, never ran a fever, not congested, etc. Doctor said it was not uncommon. But I would imagine that if I'd taken her on a plane during one of those asymptomatic ear infections, she'd have lost her mind from the pain. What do you suggest a parent do in that kind of situation? It's not bad parenting, and it's not a failure to teach your kid how to behave. And you, the fellow traveler, wouldn't know any of this, you'd just be annoyed, right?
Note: this does not apply to kids acting foolish when the plane is on the ground, and is just being bratty. And I since I spend a lot of time on planes these days, I don't have a lot of patience for other people's kids on planes, either, and am usually that "I don't care about the reason, I'm annoyed" fellow traveler. I just wonder sometimes if there is an underlying reason.
That's why I wouldn't (and didn't) fly with a baby/toddler. You don't know how they'll react and they aren't old enough to tell you what's wrong. I didn't fly with my kid until she was 5. It was a sacrifice and kinda sucked, but it was just another in a long line of things that go along with parenting.
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