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#26 centex

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 10:42 AM

I have to wonder if you worry about the TSA agent at the airport selling your information after you show ID at the security screening. Same principle...and at least in THAT red herring scenario, they KNOW you are going to be out of town.


Yes, because the Walmart cashier has undergone the same extensive criminal, credit and background checks as a Transportation Security Officer(TSO), aka screener :lol:

Job requirements for a TSO include:
  • Demonstrate physical fitness to work on a daily basis without the aid of medication.
  • Work irregular hours and shifts, including holidays and weekends.
  • Pass drug and alcohol screening tests.
  • Pass background, criminal and credit checks.


Aww, c'mon now. They DO have to pass a "personality test".
I wonder how many fail the "do you think it's OK to steal from your employer as long as you don't get caught" question? :lol:

Um.....uh.... I'd like to use a lifeline, Regis. :)


The criminal background check does nothing to assess one's propensity for criminality. It is looking for convictions (and whatever arrests might show up on the NCIC check performed by TSA contractors). Credit checks...again, that is done in the beginning, but not on a regular basis. I could also point you to any number of criminals who had good credit and clear histories prior to being caught and subsequently charged with criminal conduct.

And, as case in point, I would also point to the increasing number of cops being charged with criminal conduct...some of which is also alcohol and drug related (since the drug/alcohol checks were also referenced here).

If someone is going to be tempted, it does not always mean that they have been arrested in the past.

My other point is that availability of the information does not mean that it WILL be abused. The point I attempted to make is that the potential for abuse exists at the same rate, whether at the cash register or the security screening line. And if one is so truly paranoid about showing ID, then the same level of paranoia should exist at a line where a greater argument exists that the rights of the individual are being stripped away...

As a final point on TSA checks making for better employees...anyone remember Newark? Yeah, those higher standards really get a better employee at the line... :P

#27 radi8

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:07 PM

The criminal background check does nothing to assess one's propensity for criminality.


Nope. But they do a wonderful job of weeding out the ones that have previously been nailed for it.
According to you, Background checks are completely worthless and there is no point in running one? :lol:

#28 centex

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:33 PM

The criminal background check does nothing to assess one's propensity for criminality.


Nope. But they do a wonderful job of weeding out the ones that have previously been nailed for it.
According to you, Background checks are completely worthless and there is no point in running one? :lol:


Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a DumpMart checker does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification. Given the problems with TSA around the country, I would certainly not want to claim that they have a better screening and that one should feel safer as a result...

Background checks that are PROPERLY conducted can help mitigate risks. No background check is going to eliminate all sources of problem nor identify problem employees. I know of several cases with judges and attorneys who had their mid-life crisis and dipped into IOLTA funds to pay for coke, cars and titty bars before eventually being tagged with misapplication of fiduciary property. I've also been involved with a case of a racetrack employee who had to undergo financial background checks every year but who still managed to hit the track for about $750,000.00 in theft losses that were still within the statute of limitations for prosecution.

#29 radi8

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:39 PM

Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a DumpMart checker does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification.


Of course it doesn't preclude misuse. It's merely one additional safeguard, that may or may not work in every case.
Then again, showing your ID does not preclude misuse either, it's merely one additional safeguard, no?

#30 BBQ123

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:59 PM

I still haven't seen any IDs posted.

#31 GEORGE

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 09:18 PM

Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a
DumpMart checker
does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification.


Of course it doesn't preclude misuse. It's merely one additional safeguard, that may or may not work in every case.
Then again, showing your ID does not preclude misuse either, it's merely one additional safeguard, no?

So much love in the post there
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I had a TSA guy look at my ID with a flashlight for like 2 minutes

Asked why it was so old looking

Duhhhhhhhhhh IT WAS RENEWED BY US MAIL (no new picture)

I'll make sure I get a new picture when you pay for it...you have the money???

I guess you don't live in this state

Never seen anybody else with a US MAIL RENEWED DRIVER'S LICENSE THAT LIVES IN THIS STATE???

That is amazing...

#32 radi8

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 09:27 PM

I still haven't seen any IDs posted.



You should've been here at noon. All the good ones were momentarily posted. :good:

#33 centex

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:15 AM

I still haven't seen any IDs posted.


and you still haven't answered the questions posed in the thread...

#34 LBCS

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 05:53 PM

Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a DumpMart checker does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification.


Of course it doesn't preclude misuse. It's merely one additional safeguard, that may or may not work in every case.
Then again, showing your ID does not preclude misuse either, it's merely one additional safeguard, no?


Good point, Radi.

#35 Unas2k5

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:51 PM

lol

Edited by Unas2k5, 12 January 2010 - 10:52 PM.


#36 radi8

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:56 PM

lol



Are you new in this thread? Papers please. :angry:

#37 Unas2k5

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:02 PM

lol



Are you new in this thread? Papers please. :angry:



Not new just a spectator :angry:




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