Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:21 PM
...and it DEVALUES THE FACTS...why?????????????????????????Ah, look. The Visa/Mastercard Merchant Agreement Bot is active again.An unsigned card is not valid and should not be accepted.
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Ask it any question you want. The answer is always the same.
...said the other bot?
Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:23 PM
Why don't people just get a State ID from their state? It can be used as identity, and it does not contain the DL info. Plus, in my state, it lasts a year longer.
It just seems to be a "point of contention" instead of an actual issue.... but maybe you disagree, perhaps I just don't understand the whole concept...
Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:25 PM
Feel free to put me on IGNOREdo you hear that??? it's the sound of my heart jumping out of my chest when i hit refresh and see the technicolor scream post.
Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:25 PM
The California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.The California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.Can someone clarify something for me, since I swear I read this on the Visa/MC site, but then see these lovely threads....
isn't California exempt from the Visa/MC of "no ID required, and it's against the rules to ask"?
Which means, in CA, they CAN legally ask for ID.
is that correct?
California law allows merchants to ask for ID. I have posted the code here before. Don't have time to dig it up. But it's around.
California law allows merchants to ask for ID.
I was just answering the question.
Site Owner
Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:26 PM
Completely prohibited and outrageous! Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly behaving pet store shapes-up and never asks for ID again.How about a Pet Store Clerk swiping my girl friends Visa card and then asked for picture id. When my GF refused, the clerk refused her purchase and she had to walk out without anything.here's the thing...
Visa/MC FORBIDS merchants asking for ID.
If you want to show your ID, fine...go for it...
if you want to hand your wallet to a stranger on the street, more power to you
if you want to stick a fork in an electrical outlet, I won't stop you
but the merchant IS NOT allowed to ask for ID, and they can lose their ability to accept credit cards if they do so...
Next months statement the Pet Store charged the purchase and no refund.
Remember once the card is swiped and approved the purchase is complete!!!! and the merchant has their money. Why would you go through an unnecessary step in checking id. It is all after the fact the merchant has been paid already!!!!!!!
Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.
No ID required for signed credit card purchases. Merchants cannot require ID.
If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.
VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069
Also easily report merchant violations online at:
http://www.mastercar...violations.html
Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"
Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.
No ID required for signed credit card purchases.
Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.
Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:33 PM
Feel free to put me on IGNOREdo you hear that??? it's the sound of my heart jumping out of my chest when i hit refresh and see the technicolor scream post.
BUH BYE
Welcome to the HATE GEORGE CLUB
Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:36 PM
Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:07 AM
I have always refused to give my ID. I just tell them if they have a problem to make a Code 10 call. Mostly, no one tries to force the issue, I've already signed, approval given - if they try to take my merchandise back, I'll have them arrested for theft (clerk at Lowe's tried to take it back, told my wife to call 911, and the clerk gave it back).
I then write the VP of customer service with a cc to VISA or MC, etc. Usually get an apology with a gift card. Most I ever got was $50.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:12 AM
Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:13 AM
THEY CAN ASK FOR ID TILL THE COWS COME HOME...when I say no...they getThe California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.The California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.Can someone clarify something for me, since I swear I read this on the Visa/MC site, but then see these lovely threads....
isn't California exempt from the Visa/MC of "no ID required, and it's against the rules to ask"?
Which means, in CA, they CAN legally ask for ID.
is that correct?
California law allows merchants to ask for ID. I have posted the code here before. Don't have time to dig it up. But it's around.
California law allows merchants to ask for ID.
I was just answering the question.
Edited by GEORGE, 04 November 2008 - 12:14 AM.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:17 AM
Give them a copy of the POLICY they agreed to instead of the DRIVERS LICENSEThere is a drive thru shop here that has signs all over the drive thru "we id for credit cards, no id no sale". ive reported them every single time ive went thru there for the last 3 years. mastercard does not care. i dont care to use that shop anymore. its really annoying getting my wallet out again, its hard to get it out in the car when you are as fat as i am ffs.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:38 AM
Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.THEY CAN ASK FOR ID TILL THE COWS COME HOME...when I say no...they getThe California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.The California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.Can someone clarify something for me, since I swear I read this on the Visa/MC site, but then see these lovely threads....
isn't California exempt from the Visa/MC of "no ID required, and it's against the rules to ask"?
Which means, in CA, they CAN legally ask for ID.
is that correct?
California law allows merchants to ask for ID. I have posted the code here before. Don't have time to dig it up. But it's around.
California law allows merchants to ask for ID.
I was just answering the question.
to back off or they are in VIOLATION
Posted 04 November 2008 - 01:04 AM
The relevant section regarding NO ID can be easily folded down into a small credit card sized rectangle, which can be easily carried in any wallet, and may be quite useful should you ever encounter a violating merchant demanding ID.Give them a copy of the POLICY they agreed to instead of the DRIVERS LICENSE
Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:17 AM
The California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.The California law has no effect on the Visa/MC rules which prohibit merchants from requiring ID. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive. Merchants cannot make ID a condition of acceptance. Report violation (if any) as usual to Visa/MC and the nonsense will stop.Can someone clarify something for me, since I swear I read this on the Visa/MC site, but then see these lovely threads....
isn't California exempt from the Visa/MC of "no ID required, and it's against the rules to ask"?
Which means, in CA, they CAN legally ask for ID.
is that correct?
California law allows merchants to ask for ID. I have posted the code here before. Don't have time to dig it up. But it's around.
California law allows merchants to ask for ID.
I was just answering the question.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 04:38 AM
Mikey, the Life cereal kid
Posted 04 November 2008 - 06:08 AM
We heard you the first 2 times. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 08:17 AM
+1, although I was encouraged to see something that indicated the poster had actually read the post they were responding to. I was seriously beginning to think it was an automaton.We heard you the first 2 times. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive.
This is perhaps the MOST hypocritical post I have EVER seen....
Posted 04 November 2008 - 09:01 AM
+1, although I was encouraged to see something that indicated the poster had actually read the post they were responding to. I was seriously beginning to think it was an automaton.This is perhaps the MOST hypocritical post I have EVER seen....We heard you the first 2 times. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:01 AM
WAY LESS ROOM THEN THE SUB-PRIME CASH WOULD TAKE UPThe relevant section regarding NO ID can be easily folded down into a small credit card sized rectangle, which can be easily carried in any wallet, and may be quite useful should you ever encounter a violating merchant demanding ID.Give them a copy of the POLICY they agreed to instead of the DRIVERS LICENSE
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:05 AM
Ask all you want...I SAY NO they get to back off...not me agree to their STUPIDITYWe heard you the first 2 times. All the law means is the state itself does not stand in the way of ID checks. Merchants are free to enter into contracts with Visa/MC that are more restrictive.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:12 AM
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:14 AM
Not sure who Continental was quoting, but to call 911 because the clerk is trying to take merchandise back is hardly an emergency. Get over yourself...whomever you are.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:17 AM
Not sure who Continental was quoting, but to call 911 because the clerk is trying to take merchandise back is hardly an emergency. Get over yourself...whomever you are.
Don't like the subject of the post...don't read it
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:19 AM
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:23 AM
I KNOW CREDIT CARDS TOP TO BOTTOM...front to backNot sure who Continental was quoting, but to call 911 because the clerk is trying to take merchandise back is hardly an emergency. Get over yourself...whomever you are.
Don't like the subject of the post...don't read it
What's that supposed to mean? Subject is about an SNL skit. Content of the thread is just ridiculous.
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