152 replies to this topic

[ammorgan]

Ouch...pretty bad if you gotta get rid of somebody in LP. I can only try to imagine the reasons one of them gets fired.

[NoBull]

I certainly would. Why would I ever walk away letting it bother me, when, in fact, I could handle the situation right then and there?

While I tend to be a bit of a ball-buster in my own situations, there have been many times when I have taken up for others, as they found themselves unable to speak up about some disparate treatment they received.

Several years ago, I was in a bar in NYC, one that, at the time, was frequented by the self-styled "beautiful people." (GAG ME!!!) Anyway, this very NICE Joe Blow-looking guy walks up to the bar, and tries to get the bartender's attention. The bartender was so rude...would not take the guy's order...continued flirting with the beautiful women around...and was just generally ignoring this nice, normal (average) guy. I couldn't take it anymore...and (keep in mind at the time, I was getting ready to compete and weighed 245 (at 5'8"))...gave the bartender a piece of my mind about what a piece of you-know-what he was, etc. The guy got his drink...and I paid for it...

I DESPISE DISPARATE TREATMENT OF ANY TYPE...whether it be racially motivated, sexually motivated, economically motivated...

But PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK UP!!!

Edited by NoBull, 01 May 2006 - 04:04 AM.

[ammorgan]

I certainly would. Why would I ever walk away letting it bother me, when, in fact, I could handle the situation right then and there?

While I tend to be a bit of a ball-buster in my own situations, there have been many times when I have taken up for others, as they spoke up about some disparate treatment they received.

Several years ago, I was in a bar in NYC, one that, at the time, was frequented by the self-styled "beautiful people." (GAG ME!!!) Anyway, this very Joe Blow-looking guy walks up to the bar, and tries to get the bartender's attention. The bartender was so rude...would not take the guy's order...continued flirting with the beautiful women around...and was just generally ignoring this nice, normal (average) guy. I couldn't take it anymore...and (keep in mind at the time, I was getting ready to compete and weighed 245 (at 5'8")...gave the bartender a piece of my mind about what a piece of you-know-what he is, etc. The guy got his drink...and I paid for it...

I DESPISE DISPARATE TREATMENT OF ANY TYPE...whether it be racially motivated, sexually motivated, economically motivated...

But PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK UP!!!

I'd hate to see if a mechanic or anybody ever asked to speak to my husband about repairs on the car or the part that we're trying to get for the car. I'd probably tear them a new one. Especially considering right now I am the one trying to get the faceplate/anti theft device for the radio so we can actually use it. DH has been letting me handle it.

[NoBull]

I certainly would. Why would I ever walk away letting it bother me, when, in fact, I could handle the situation right then and there?

While I tend to be a bit of a ball-buster in my own situations, there have been many times when I have taken up for others, as they spoke up about some disparate treatment they received.

Several years ago, I was in a bar in NYC, one that, at the time, was frequented by the self-styled "beautiful people." (GAG ME!!!) Anyway, this very Joe Blow-looking guy walks up to the bar, and tries to get the bartender's attention. The bartender was so rude...would not take the guy's order...continued flirting with the beautiful women around...and was just generally ignoring this nice, normal (average) guy. I couldn't take it anymore...and (keep in mind at the time, I was getting ready to compete and weighed 245 (at 5'8")...gave the bartender a piece of my mind about what a piece of you-know-what he is, etc. The guy got his drink...and I paid for it...

I DESPISE DISPARATE TREATMENT OF ANY TYPE...whether it be racially motivated, sexually motivated, economically motivated...

But PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK UP!!!

I'd hate to see if a mechanic or anybody ever asked to speak to my husband about repairs on the car or the part that we're trying to get for the car. I'd probably tear them a new one. Especially considering right now I am the one trying to get the faceplate/anti theft device for the radio so we can actually use it. DH has been letting me handle it.

My money is just as green as the next guy's. If they want to mistreat me, I will make my statement and take my business elsewhere.

As I was finishing up my shopping at Ralph's one day, I stopped by the deli counter to pick up some turkey. The woman behind the counter was just UNREAL.

I went and found the manager...and showed him my FULL shopping cart. I told him I was going to leave it RIGHT THERE, and would not be purchasing anything there again, because of the way I was treated. I told him that HE could put the groceries from my shopping cart back on the shelf, or, better yet, make HER do it.

I walked out.

[ammorgan]

I'd hate to piss you off

Man....its too bad you don't know anything about my radio situation. I'd get you to call up the guy who sold us the car without the anti theft device in the radio and give him an earful.

[Marilie]

[quote name='NoBull' date='May 1 2006, 02:40 AM' post='1466306']
This just reminded me of that scene with Steve Martin in his movie "The Jerk" where he is working in a gas station pumping petrol and a car full of chicanos in a lowrider pulls up and the driver (male hispanic) hands him a CC. Martin looks at the CC and says something like "welcome Edna Goldstein can I filler up?" LOL!
[/quote]


OMG!!!

I never saw that movie. Now I HAVE to get the DVD!!!

You have me ROLLING, rogue!
[/quote]

Oh you HAVE to see that movie!!! It's classic! You have to see the parts about him learning what his "special purpose is" and "the new phonebook's here - I'm somebody now!"

[NoBull]

Hey marilie...

YES!!! I have to get it, DEFINITELY. I will check to see if they have it at Tower Video. If not, I am sure that Virgin will have it.

It sounds HYSTERICAL.

[NoBull]

I'd hate to piss you off

Man....its too bad you don't know anything about my radio situation. I'd get you to call up the guy who sold us the car without the anti theft device in the radio and give him an earful.

Oh, yes...all of my friends come to get me to fight their battles. LOL

Just helped untangle a particularly complicated situation for a friend of mine with Verizon Wireless! You gotta love 3-way calling!

[Continental]

So I walked in and ordered a blizzard. Grand total: $1.99.

I'm wondering if a black man with a credit card could have sent off a red flag to the cashier in question.

Yes. Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly behaving Dairy Queen shapes-up and never asks for ID again.

Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases. Merchants cannot require ID.

If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.

VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069


Also easily report merchant violations online at:

http://www.mastercar...violations.html

Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"



Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases.

Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.

[inspiringmind]

Your kidding me....he pulls up a 2 1/2 year old thread so he can post? (Man, not Friday either!)

[cajunbulldog1]

We really need a graveyard smily for this.

[LKH]

So I walked in and ordered a blizzard. Grand total: $1.99.

I'm wondering if a black man with a credit card could have sent off a red flag to the cashier in question.

Yes. Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly behaving Dairy Queen shapes-up and never asks for ID again.

Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases. Merchants cannot require ID.

If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.

VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069


Also easily report merchant violations online at:

http://www.mastercar...violations.html

Check the box that says "Merchant required ID"



Never show ID for signed credit card purchases.

No ID required for signed credit card purchases.

Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.

Back to moderation for you Continental. We had an agreement, you didn't hold up your end with this nonsense.

[TrevorHere]

Your kidding me....he pulls up a 2 1/2 year old thread so he can post? (Man, not Friday either!)

I don't know, this gave me an early morning chuckle:

Yes. Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly behaving Dairy Queen shapes-up and never asks for ID again.

[cb_opus]

Maybe the posts about people missing NoBull inspired him to dredge up this thread...

NB, I hardly knew ye - but miss you too!

[Herloss]

A couple of you should know: What happened to NoBull? I'm sure this was answered in some deeply buried thread.... But I didn't see it and wondered how he is -and what happened to the man!

HerLoss

[Jen23514]

I will! I love Steve Martin..."Planes, Trains and Automobiles" is one of my all-time favorite movies.

those aren't pillows!!!!!!!!!

[Boxie]

JC Penny always ask to see ID with a MC or Visa.

[Continental]

America is a very racist country, your ethnicity and color of skin determines what kind of treatment you will get in any given situation.

Racist cashier must be retrained at once. You compare the signature on the back of the credit card with the signature on the receipt. ID should never be asked for at all. No one should ever be put through such nonsense.

CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED

When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.

They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or picture ID.

Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement. The contract MasterCard merchants sign specifically prevents them from asking for personal ID.

Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard WorldWide 2000 Purchase St. Purchase, NY 10577. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine.

Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. To report a merchant, send a letter to the bank that that issued your Visa card or call 1-800-VISA-911.

American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization."

[nlocker]

So, if a woman hands me a signed credit card that has a mans name on it, Im not to ask to see ID? Or rather, she can refuse to show ID? That doesnt seem right either.

There are men named Stacy, Kim, etc. And there are women named Michael, Christopher, etc.
As such, it's ridiculous to try to judge whether or not the name is "gender" appropriate.

All that should matter is whether or not the current signature matches the one on the credit card.

[Jen23514]

America is a very racist country, your ethnicity and color of skin determines what kind of treatment you will get in any given situation.

Racist cashier must be retrained at once. You compare the signature on the back of the credit card with the signature on the receipt. ID should never be asked for at all. No one should ever be put through such nonsense.

CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED

When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.

They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or picture ID.

Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement. The contract MasterCard merchants sign specifically prevents them from asking for personal ID.

Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard WorldWide 2000 Purchase St. Purchase, NY 10577. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine.

Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. To report a merchant, send a letter to the bank that that issued your Visa card or call 1-800-VISA-911.

American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization."

wow.

slow learner?

[BobWang]

wow.

slow learner?

I think it has something to do with the windmill shortage.

[Jen23514]

wow.

slow learner?

I think it has something to do with the windmill shortage.

[MarvBear]

I'm not unaware of the fact the reported post within this thread is OVER 2 YEARS OLD.

I am dismissing the report due to it's frivolous nature.

[GEORGE]

Your kidding me....he pulls up a 2 1/2 year old thread so he can post? (Man, not Friday either!)

[GEORGE]

I'm not unaware of the fact the reported post within this thread is OVER 2 YEARS OLD.

I am dismissing the report due to it's frivolous nature.

Somebody here has been known for bumping MORE than a few OLD posts

...and it does not start with "C"