Assaulted, Wallet Stolen, Credit Cards Ran Up

[centex]

I've already emailed their "itsgo2010@aol.com" email address they used to receive the background check on me telling them "i hope youre enjoying your new dewalt drill kit, compressor, and annabelle victorian shower fixture"

 

I think I'll end up making them mad enough that theyll come after me .. LOL

I think your just inviting trouble. Unless your going to personally file charges of assault and identity theft, leave it up to the cops. Yes, they may not be doing what you want, but at least you won't wind up dead.

 

I understand the impulse - once you've been victimized you think it's a way (illusory, of course) of gaining some control.

 

Still, it's a mistake, OP, as I and others have told you. Let the police do their job - call them, see them, whatever, if you have any new info (e.g. from cc companies, online purchases), but STOP investigating.

 

Concur and for a very specific reason...there are occasions where evidence procured by the victim is tossed precisely because the Court will hold that they were acting as an agent of law enforcement and, as such, all Constitutional safeguards that must be followed by the police would apply, by default, to investigative efforts by the OP.

 

It would really suck for OP to think he handed a gift-wrapped case only to have the entire case kicked at a mundane suppression hearing conducted at the time (or soon after) arraignment...

[Elizabeth_Speaking]

I saw him walking when i was driving by last week but I was in a hurry to get somewhere.

 

Am I the only one who caught this?

[hegemony]

The only reason I'm unemployed at the moment is because I was unjustly fired from my healthcare job by my ethically challenged Nigerian employers, and Obama keeps extending unemployment another 6 months

 

and you expect people to believe you?

[centex]

well, all, it is NOW Friday...

 

That is all.

[higher180]

Thank goodness it's Friday

[beli]

I saw him walking when i was driving by last week but I was in a hurry to get somewhere.

 

Am I the only one who caught this?

No I caught it, but didn't know how to respond.. <shrug> Why do I have the whole Law & Order theme going through my head????

[hegemony]

THE OP SHOULD HIGHER MY PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR ELP

 

HERE IS HIS CONTACT INFORMATION:

 

[Operation_Home_Ownership]

[mj76]

Why are these stores releasing information to some random bloke who comes in and claims someone used his card? How do they know you aren't stalking someone else looking up their card number?

exactly.

 

i've found that when you walk into a store looking like you should be in acasket rather than walking around, tell them you were robbed and your credit cards were used there then depending on who is working, they will be more likely to help you out.

 

on the one stores that dont seem likely to help out, I went in there acting confused and stupid asking why they had charged me for something and I had never been to their store. when they say "well you must have" then I give them the credit card number and ask them to furnish me a receipt or something to prove it because i had no recollection of ever buying anything there.

 

After all, the credit cards were in MY name so why wouldnt they give me this information?

[mj76]

I saw him walking when i was driving by last week but I was in a hurry to get somewhere.

 

Am I the only one who caught this?

No I caught it, but didn't know how to respond.. <shrug> Why do I have the whole Law & Order theme going through my head????

 

I dont really get what you are implying here, could you clarify?

 

when I said "I saw him walking by last week" I meant the guy from the first incident when just one credit card out of all was used at the Eldorado, Harrah's and Cal Neva totalling 11,000. I DID have a full description of the suspect in that case, and I did include that with the original police report.

 

I was upset about that, because the 3 casinos are all within walking distance of the police station, and no one even bothered to go look at the tapes at the cash cage to see if it fit the description of who I gave them.

 

Incident 1) took place April 4 easter sunday, it wasnt an assault but my wallet was stolen and he cashed out 11,000 in money orders and got away with it, because it was never assigned and the case status is closed

 

Incident 2) took place May 15 This is the one where i was jumped leaving the casino and they ran all over town while i was unconscious and recovering at a friends house running up my credit cards

Have I clarified things?

Edited May 21, 2010 by mj76

[mj76]

THE OP SHOULD HIGHER MY PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR ELP

 

HERE IS HIS CONTACT INFORMATION:

 

 

thats a pretty good one , i used to watch reruns of that show on daytime tv when i was like 13.

 

i think you meant to say "hire" and "help" though

Edited May 21, 2010 by mj76

[mj76]

I've already emailed their "itsgo2010@aol.com" email address they used to receive the background check on me telling them "i hope youre enjoying your new dewalt drill kit, compressor, and annabelle victorian shower fixture"

 

I think I'll end up making them mad enough that theyll come after me .. LOL

I think your just inviting trouble. Unless your going to personally file charges of assault and identity theft, leave it up to the cops. Yes, they may not be doing what you want, but at least you won't wind up dead.

 

I understand the impulse - once you've been victimized you think it's a way (illusory, of course) of gaining some control.

 

Still, it's a mistake, OP, as I and others have told you. Let the police do their job - call them, see them, whatever, if you have any new info (e.g. from cc companies, online purchases), but STOP investigating.

 

Concur and for a very specific reason...there are occasions where evidence procured by the victim is tossed precisely because the Court will hold that they were acting as an agent of law enforcement and, as such, all Constitutional safeguards that must be followed by the police would apply, by default, to investigative efforts by the OP.

 

It would really suck for OP to think he handed a gift-wrapped case only to have the entire case kicked at a mundane suppression hearing conducted at the time (or soon after) arraignment...

 

 

thanks for this information, I really didnt know that. I guess you are damned if you do and dont. So should I now go withdraw the information that I've given them? I dont see how it could be thrown out of court just by me inquiring what my own credit cards had been used for.

 

Ive seen petty incidents where a woman lost her sunglasses or something and security reviewing tapes for them so I didnt think what I was doing was really that big of a deal

[GamingG]

i think you meant to say "hire" and "help" though

Yes, he did mean "hire", but "ELP" was correct. You couldn't tell that it was an acronym and not a misspelling because of his CAPS. ELP - Endorsed Local Provider.

[hegemony]

i think you meant to say "hire" and "help" though

Yes, he did mean "hire", but "ELP" was correct. You couldn't tell that it was an acronym and not a misspelling because of his CAPS. ELP - Endorsed Local Provider.

 

my apologies for poor proofreading. I ain't got an ivy league edumacation.

[centex]

I've already emailed their "itsgo2010@aol.com" email address they used to receive the background check on me telling them "i hope youre enjoying your new dewalt drill kit, compressor, and annabelle victorian shower fixture"

 

I think I'll end up making them mad enough that theyll come after me .. LOL

I think your just inviting trouble. Unless your going to personally file charges of assault and identity theft, leave it up to the cops. Yes, they may not be doing what you want, but at least you won't wind up dead.

 

I understand the impulse - once you've been victimized you think it's a way (illusory, of course) of gaining some control.

 

Still, it's a mistake, OP, as I and others have told you. Let the police do their job - call them, see them, whatever, if you have any new info (e.g. from cc companies, online purchases), but STOP investigating.

 

Concur and for a very specific reason...there are occasions where evidence procured by the victim is tossed precisely because the Court will hold that they were acting as an agent of law enforcement and, as such, all Constitutional safeguards that must be followed by the police would apply, by default, to investigative efforts by the OP.

 

It would really suck for OP to think he handed a gift-wrapped case only to have the entire case kicked at a mundane suppression hearing conducted at the time (or soon after) arraignment...

 

 

thanks for this information, I really didnt know that. I guess you are damned if you do and dont. So should I now go withdraw the information that I've given them? I dont see how it could be thrown out of court just by me inquiring what my own credit cards had been used for.

 

Ive seen petty incidents where a woman lost her sunglasses or something and security reviewing tapes for them so I didnt think what I was doing was really that big of a deal

 

If you cannot see the difference between trying to find sunglasses versus criminal procedure then there is little else that can be done for you here...

 

HINT: one has Constitutional and procedural elements that attach and one does not.

[mj76]

This is where I am confused, because even the workers down at the police station office seemed to agree that it was a good idea what I was doing on my own to try and get more information for the police.

 

I guess I am back to square one where I was the first time in just sitting back waiting for the case to be assigned to someone. They told me to check online in a week to see if it had been yet.

 

Anyways, I expected half of the responses here to be just to clown on me, but its not like it can be anymore humiliating than walking through a crowded sidewalk of tourists beat up and bloodied with everyone avoiding you like the plague and then having thousands run up on my credit cards. I figured I had a 50/50 shot at getting some ideas I hadn't thought of. I didnt mean to get into any debates on here, really.

 

At the very least I wanted to put out my experience about how much police and banks really care about credit card fraud. I know I will never forget about this as the vision in my left eye will probably never return to normal. So its not even about the possibility of these debts coming back on me or my credit being ruined at this point. At least I gave a few people some good laughs, I haven't lost my sense of humor either.

 

If anyone cares to check the status of either case online in the future check here: http://www.reno.gov/index.aspx?page=2008 1st case # from april that was unassigned is 10-9840, 2nd case from last sat. is 10-13595

Edited May 21, 2010 by mj76

[NapaStyle]

WOW.

 

pass the popcorn.........

 

This is insane.

[mj76]

I really hate to revive this thread but now I really need help DESPERATELY

 

I just received a letter back from BofA Fraud Claims Division concerning the 10,000 dollars withdrawn on my BofA debit card. I Had no idea that these 2 BofA credit cards were linked to my check card as overdraft protection. This is how they were able to suck the money off of the credit card which had a 13,000 limit, which I never approved as an overdraft. I didnt even use the account anymore except to deposit at the branch every once in a while to transfer online. They attached a copy of one of the cashiers checks at one of the casinos with an obvious FAKE of my signature on it (it looks like someone signed my name letter by letter) and say this in the letter:

 

"After conducting a thorough investigation of the above referenced claim, it has been determined that no error has occured in this instance.

 

Our records show the transaction activity in question was authorized and posted, or billed, correctly to your account. We relied on the enclosed documents to make our decision (THE FAKED SIGNATURE CHECK)

 

Therefore, the temporary credit for $10,419.94 that was previously applied to your account will be reversed on May 24, 2010, thus closing this dispute. Please note that any credit that was applied to your account, for the reimbursement of fees related to this claim, will also be rebilled."

 

WHAT? Thourough investigation? The check enclosed looks nothing like my signature, and supposedly whoever took the check out at the casino would have had to do a fingerprint also.

 

So, no one from Bank of America even contacted me about this case to ask me any questions whatsoever. Its not like this is just a few hundred dollars, this will totally ruin me financially, and I havent even begun to deal with the other case yet. This is completely unacceptable both on the part of the police for closing the case unassigned, and BofA.

 

So I just called them up and they said they are going to reopen the case for reinvestigation. But now, I have absolutely no doubt that theres probably going to be someone with no real interest in the case rubber stamping it again. I can not have this debt and I will go to any length possible to prove that this was NOT ME doing these tranactions. So this is completely a nightmare now and I need to know what my next option is. I spoke with a guy from the cash cage that this check copy was drawn on and he told me that they would have needed to take a thumb or fingerprint. He said that the accounting officeshould have record and to go there tomorrow and see if they have it there.

 

I am definitely going to do thaat, but Im wondering why they only sent a copy of one of the checks and not all of them so that I can go clear my name on ALL of these.

 

I simply can not and will not pay this debt as it is not mine, but it's starting to look like theyre wanting to give me the shaft. Isnt there a simple way to handle this without putting together a legal team which is what it is starting to look like I will need to do?

Edited May 25, 2010 by mj76

[clutchcargo]

Don't you have to opt in for OD now? Or is the law not retro-active, meaning all accounts that were default opted in remain so?

[beli]

I'd call and ask for the name of the person who's handling your account and forward them a copy of police report. In fact I'd also send this information both Fax and CMRR as Bofa will have a short memory and say they didn't get it, I'd also take a copy of that check to the police department and update your police report and give them a copy of the check as well.

 

I'd also absolutely contact a lawyer NOW, not later, not tomorrow not the next day. NOW.

Edited May 25, 2010 by beli

[visorboy1974]

tl;dr

 

These cash advances...if they were taken at a cage, wouldn't there be videotape of them? There's about 10,000 cameras at any casino I've ever been in...even the shady ones.

[GonnaGetEm]

Don't you have to opt in for OD now? Or is the law not retro-active, meaning all accounts that were default opted in remain so?

 

No, they're not. I had OD on my checking account for the past many years and I recently got a letter from my bank stating that I'd have to opt in to keep it.

 

Likewise my Orchard card was opted in for over limit coverage, and when the new laws passed I got an email that said I would have to opt in to continue to have it. I didn't. Now it's gone from my account.

[jack1212]

Get a lawyer.

 

End of story.

[mj76]

tl;dr

 

These cash advances...if they were taken at a cage, wouldn't there be videotape of them? There's about 10,000 cameras at any casino I've ever been in...even the shady ones.

 

 

This has been what has totally baffled me all along. By the next day I was personally in every one of these casinos speaking with their chief security officers about what happened. All 3 of them said yes there would be videotape, but that the police would need to contact them to release it. Then I found out that the police never assigned the case to anyopne and closed it. I called in to talk to the sergeant and he gave me the impression they would re-open and look into it and told me that the video surveillance there at the casinos doesnt always give a good description blah blah blah.. I used to really want them to find out who did this. Now all I want them to do is rule out that it was me at this point which I'm 100% positive any of the videos would do. The problem now is that this occured April 4th and I'm not sure that any of them would store video back that far.

[GonnaGetEm]

tl;dr

 

These cash advances...if they were taken at a cage, wouldn't there be videotape of them? There's about 10,000 cameras at any casino I've ever been in...even the shady ones.

 

 

This has been what has totally baffled me all along. By the next day I was personally in every one of these casinos speaking with their chief security officers about what happened. All 3 of them said yes there would be videotape, but that the police would need to contact them to release it. Then I found out that the police never assigned the case to anyopne and closed it. I called in to talk to the sergeant and he gave me the impression they would re-open and look into it and told me that the video surveillance there at the casinos doesnt always give a good description blah blah blah.. I used to really want them to find out who did this. Now all I want them to do is rule out that it was me at this point which I'm 100% positive any of the videos would do. The problem now is that this occured April 4th and I'm not sure that any of them would store video back that far.

 

I think if I was completely into getting this resolved in my favor (if I was you) I would get a lawyer first, then hang up the phone and immediately hire a private investigator. At least they have motivation to figure this out, unlike the police apparently. Good luck.