Toddler Tantrum gets family booted from plane

[Snork Maiden]

I'll wait until Eboni is 2 to formulate an opinion on this thread..

[SplashMom]

I think some people have grown desensitized to their children's behavior. I see parents who obviously believe their children are adorable when they are racing around a restaurant or talking during a movie. I've got news ... it's not adorable and it's extremely rude. If my daughter (now grown) had been kicking the back of someone's seat at the movies, I would have put an immediate stop to it. I once had to ask a child to stop kicking my seat and you'd have thought I asked the impossible. It had gone on for quite some time and I just couldn't take it anymore. The parent did not apologize and he acted as if the child could not sit through a movie without kicking a seat. Here's a hint ... if your child can't sit through a movie, don't waste your time and money (and my sanity) by taking them to see one. Additionally, if your baby is crying during a ceremony (wedding, graduation, etc.), you make it miserable for everyone. So sorry if you have to miss something, but think of how your child is ruining it for everyone. I know babies can't control when they cry or not, but parents can remove them from the situation. It all comes down to consideration of others.

[Nemeweh]

 

 

The airlines just need to break down and create "family/kid friendly flights" and "Adult only flights".

 

Because honestly all this kind of discussion does is pit "families" against "singles". I'm pretty tired and bored with the entire subject.

[cljohnr]

 

The airlines just need to break down and create "family/kid friendly flights" and "Adult only flights".

 

Because honestly all this kind of discussion does is pit "families" against "singles". I'm pretty tired and bored with the entire subject.

I think most of the people in this thread supporting the airline have families.

[Nemeweh]

 

The airlines just need to break down and create "family/kid friendly flights" and "Adult only flights".

 

Because honestly all this kind of discussion does is pit "families" against "singles". I'm pretty tired and bored with the entire subject.

I think most of the people in this thread supporting the airline have families.

 

 

 

 

I never said anything about "people in this thread". I said I am tired of the subject. How many articles have we read in the last year about it? How many more do we need to read before the subject is resolved?

 

Sometimes the airline is at fault (or it's employees) and sometimes it the is the parent and/or child.

 

It doesn't matter who is at fault, but what remains is that resolves need to be made. IE., Create childless flights, and family flights.

 

If you get on a flight that is "child friendly" you don't get to whine about some 2 yr old crying or throwing a tantrum. And unless a child runs up and kicks the pilot in the boy bits, or goes all UFC on a flight attendant - it takes off, so long as the kid is in the seat. Period.

 

In the same vein, no kids on Adult flights.

 

 

Situation solved and now we can all move on.

 

For the record I don't fly. DD does, and I will end up taking DS somewhere because he wants to fly... but left to my own devices I will drive.

[VibrantEcho]

What would your criteria be for an "adult" flight? No kids under 5? 10? 18?

[giraffy]

 

I never said anything about "people in this thread". I said I am tired of the subject. How many articles have we read in the last year about it? How many more do we need to read before the subject is resolved?

 

Sometimes the airline is at fault (or it's employees) and sometimes it the is the parent and/or child.

 

It doesn't matter who is at fault, but what remains is that resolves need to be made. IE., Create childless flights, and family flights.

 

If you get on a flight that is "child friendly" you don't get to whine about some 2 yr old crying or throwing a tantrum. And unless a child runs up and kicks the pilot in the boy bits, or goes all UFC on a flight attendant - it takes off, so long as the kid is in the seat. Period.

 

In the same vein, no kids on Adult flights.

 

 

Situation solved and now we can all move on.

 

For the record I don't fly. DD does, and I will end up taking DS somewhere because he wants to fly... but left to my own devices I will drive.

Or, you know, parents can teach their kids how to behave, and make reasonable decisions about what they know their kid can/can't handle, and take responsibility for their child's behavior.

 

You know. Either way.

[Nemeweh]

What would your criteria be for an "adult" flight? No kids under 5? 10? 18?

 

 

Let's go with 16. It's a completely arbitrary number.

 

 

I never said anything about "people in this thread". I said I am tired of the subject. How many articles have we read in the last year about it? How many more do we need to read before the subject is resolved?

 

Sometimes the airline is at fault (or it's employees) and sometimes it the is the parent and/or child.

 

It doesn't matter who is at fault, but what remains is that resolves need to be made. IE., Create childless flights, and family flights.

 

If you get on a flight that is "child friendly" you don't get to whine about some 2 yr old crying or throwing a tantrum. And unless a child runs up and kicks the pilot in the boy bits, or goes all UFC on a flight attendant - it takes off, so long as the kid is in the seat. Period.

 

In the same vein, no kids on Adult flights.

 

 

Situation solved and now we can all move on.

 

For the record I don't fly. DD does, and I will end up taking DS somewhere because he wants to fly... but left to my own devices I will drive.

Or, you know, parents can teach their kids how to behave, and make reasonable decisions about what they know their kid can/can't handle, and take responsibility for their child's behavior.

 

You know. Either way.

 

 

Yeah sure. That's gonna happen...because a two yr old isn't known the world over for being an A-hole whenever the mood suits them. There's a reason why they're called "terrible twos". Plus, some parents just aren't going to do it.

[orangecrush]

 

 

 

 

I never said anything about "people in this thread". I said I am tired of the subject. How many articles have we read in the last year about it? How many more do we need to read before the subject is resolved?

 

Sometimes the airline is at fault (or it's employees) and sometimes it the is the parent and/or child.

 

It doesn't matter who is at fault, but what remains is that resolves need to be made. IE., Create childless flights, and family flights.

 

If you get on a flight that is "child friendly" you don't get to whine about some 2 yr old crying or throwing a tantrum. And unless a child runs up and kicks the pilot in the boy bits, or goes all UFC on a flight attendant - it takes off, so long as the kid is in the seat. Period.

 

In the same vein, no kids on Adult flights.

 

 

Situation solved and now we can all move on.

 

For the record I don't fly. DD does, and I will end up taking DS somewhere because he wants to fly... but left to my own devices I will drive.

 

 

Why should I have to fly on a "child friendly" flight and put up with bad-flowers kids, when my kid behaves?

 

The only way to solve this is to ban kids from flying.

[Tigz]

I'd go with 8 years old. An 8 year old will know how to behave him/herself. If an 8 yr old or older kid has "issues", then the parent needs to chose a family friendly flight.

 

I doubt very seriously they will create two different flights. But they could designate a family area on every plane....like they used to have a smoking section. If the seats for the family area are sold out, the family will need to find another flight, or if an "adult" needs a seat and that is the only one available....well, they have been warned that is the section that they will be in.

 

Simple solution.

[orangecrush]

BAN THEM!!!!!!

[Tigz]

BAN THEM!!!!!!

 

Jerk adults? Wish they could be banned. Flights would be so much nicer.

[orangecrush]

BAN THEM!!!!!!

 

Jerk adults? Wish they could be banned. Flights would be so much nicer.

 

 

Jerk adults go to jail when they throw tantrums on flights. The same cannot be said for jerk kids. If they start sending disruptive toddlers (or their parents) to jail, then they should be allowed to fly with every one else.

[Tigz]

I've seen more obnoxious adults on an airplane than I have seen unruly children.

 

I think most people are irritated by children because they want to be irritated by children.

I have seen people walk by a seat where there was a baby/toddler and roll their eyes, even if the child was sleeping or happily reading a book or playing a game. They just didn't want the child there even if it were acting nicely.

 

I even saw a lady ask the flight attendant to have her seat moved because there was a child 2 seats back from her. (The FA told her too bad the flight was booked) the child didn't misbehave at all....but she sat there and complained about it the entire flight.

[orangecrush]

I've seen more obnoxious adults on an airplane than I have seen unruly children.

 

I think most people are irritated by children because they want to be irritated by children.

I have seen people walk by a seat where there was a baby/toddler and roll their eyes, even if the child was sleeping or happily reading a book or playing a game. They just didn't want the child there even if it were acting nicely.

 

I even saw a lady ask the flight attendant to have her seat moved because there was a child 2 seats back from her. (The FA told her too bad the flight was booked) the child didn't misbehave at all....but she sat there and complained about it the entire flight.

 

 

More adults fly than kids. That's why you see more of them.

 

Some people just don't like kids. It has nothing to do with being on a plane.

[giraffy]

 

Yeah sure. That's gonna happen...because a two yr old isn't known the world over for being an A-hole whenever the mood suits them. There's a reason why they're called "terrible twos". Plus, some parents just aren't going to do it.

There was a period of time - when Gabby was, oh, 3 seconds old, until she was 18mos, where she would just.... screech, for no discernible reason. Nothing was wrong, she wasn't particularly happy, sad, mad, hungry, frustrated, pleased, anything. She was just screechy. You know what I did?

 

I didn't fly.

 

Because it's uckfing rude to force that obnoxious onto other people. When I DID fly with her, when she was 2, she was an angel. I've *never* had trouble with my kids on a flight. Ever. And I am NOT the best parenter ever, I'm barely even good at it. I just expect them to behave. I taught them basic life skills, like not acting like a jackass in a plane.

 

It's just not that hard.

 

If I knew there was something about flying that was going to set my kid off, I just wouldn't do it.

 

As for parents that choose not to teach their kids to not suck, well. They can get kicked off flights and spend $2000 on a hotel. Consider it a "Sorry you suck" fee.

[giraffy]

You know what? I'm just going to say I'm in a really bad mood and feeling extra judgy. Take all of what I said with a grain of salt.

[orangecrush]

You know what? I'm just going to say I'm in a really bad mood and feeling extra judgy. Take all of what I said with a grain of salt.

 

 

So you are feeling normal???? :unsure:

[giraffy]

You know what? I'm just going to say I'm in a really bad mood and feeling extra judgy. Take all of what I said with a grain of salt.

 

 

So you are feeling normal???? :unsure:

I you.

 

[Snork Maiden]

I guess I've gotten lucky, I don't think anyone's yet had the nerve to roll eyes at Eboni. People have actually been nicer than I'd expect.. My last flight, one dude gave me his window seat and took an aisle seat behind us, so Eboni could sprawl out, another guy helped me put my bags up, and even held Eboni while I made a bottle. and a third guy carried my bags all the way off the aircraft and to Rom, who was meeting us.

 

 

I think it was partially cause we all bonded over being stuck on an aircraft for 2 hours before take off while throw up was being cleaned up in 1st class.

 

But anyway, I love when nice people happen in crowded places.

 

And, Eboni was a little atrocious .. The only people who sucked were the flight attendants. Ugh.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Snork Maiden

[breeze]

Society's just gone all to heck. Why, when I was little....

[orangecrush]

Eboni is a cute kid. I suspect people have problems with ugly kids throwing tantrums...

 

 

 

[orangecrush]

Society's just gone all to heck. Why, when I was little....

 

 

There were no airplanes????

 

 

 

 

 

Running for my life...

[Snork Maiden]

Eboni is a cute kid. I suspect people have problems with ugly kids throwing tantrums...

 

 

 

 

That doesn't explain why people help ME

[jolla]

Sometimes the airline is at fault (or it's employees) and sometimes it the is the parent and/or child.

 

It doesn't matter who is at fault, but what remains is that resolves need to be made. IE., Create childless flights, and family flights.

 

If you get on a flight that is "child friendly" you don't get to whine about some 2 yr old crying or throwing a tantrum. And unless a child runs up and kicks the pilot in the boy bits, or goes all UFC on a flight attendant - it takes off, so long as the kid is in the seat. Period.

 

In the same vein, no kids on Adult flights.

 

 

Situation solved and now we can all move on.

Child-friendly flights don't solve the problem. The problem is this kid wouldn't (or the parent wouldn't make her) get buckled up in time. Schedules have to be kept, child-friendly flight or not.