SSDI and child support

[sirrowan]

My children's father does not work. He is trying to get social security because of a host of issues he has. He and I were never married and I've never taken him to court for child support.

 

Will my children get social security on behalf as him? I'm loathe to give my children's ss #'s directly to him. He wanted them so he could go apply for county benefits.

 

Help!!!!

 

I welcome all advice but please don't come at me with the I'm a dumbazz for not getting child support because I have my reasons........

[beli]

Was the CS court ordered? How old are the children now? In my friends case she got some of her ex's back payments. However, they were legally married and legally divorced. She doesn't get part of his actual check that I know of tho. But I don't know all the details other than what she mentioned that her ex was getting Ssdi and she got part of his back payments because of him owing CS.

Edited December 28, 2011 by beli

[Battle_of_Evermore]

SSDI is very hard, and I do mean hard to get and they are very strict on what you can and cannot have. But having kids and not paying child support can open another can of worms that can mean trouble.

[dawniedawn67]

My children's father does not work. He is trying to get social security because of a host of issues he has. He and I were never married and I've never taken him to court for child support.

 

Will my children get social security on behalf as him? I'm loathe to give my children's ss #'s directly to him. He wanted them so he could go apply for county benefits.

 

Help!!!!

 

I welcome all advice but please don't come at me with the I'm a dumbazz for not getting child support because I have my reasons........

 

Is he on their birth certificates?

 

I also don't think your children get SSI because he does. And the only way he needs the children's SS#s is if he is claiming he supports them. Since it's tax time, he may be trying to claim them as dependents.

 

Tell him to give you the # of his case worker and you can call and talk to her directly.

 

And you're not a dumbazz for not getting child support. I wish I hadn't filed when I left my scumbag ex.

[sirrowan]

He is on their BC's. He wants their SS#'s so he can go down to the county and get a medical card and food stamps etc. They live with ME.

 

My girls JUST saw their father for Christmas Eve. They hadn't seen him since the last Christmas Eve. He lives 10 minutes away.

 

He lives with a girlfriend that supports him. He hasn't worked for a few years now. He has real issues and he should have received his disability 5 years ago.

[beli]

Is/was the child support court ordered at the time? If it is, then if he's in aaares with CS they may get part of his pack pay. You need to contact his case woker or just call ssi and ask.

[dawniedawn67]

He is on their BC's. He wants their SS#'s so he can go down to the county and get a medical card and food stamps etc. They live with ME.

 

 

If they don't live with them and he provides no support for them, there is no way in h-e-l-l I'd be giving him their SS#s.

 

If it makes you feel any better, call the welfare office yourself and ask them why they need this info since he provides no support.

[sirrowan]

He is on their BC's. He wants their SS#'s so he can go down to the county and get a medical card and food stamps etc. They live with ME.

 

 

If they don't live with them and he provides no support for them, there is no way in h-e-l-l I'd be giving him their SS#s.

 

If it makes you feel any better, call the welfare office yourself and ask them why they need this info since he provides no support.

 

You misunderstand. He wants to do that so he can "pretend" that they live with him.

 

There is no court ordered cs. Perhaps I need to remedy that......

[dawniedawn67]

You misunderstand. He wants to do that so he can "pretend" that they live with him.

 

There is no court ordered cs. Perhaps I need to remedy that......

 

 

So....you're asking if you should aid him in defrauding the government?

 

Personally, I'd be calling the welfare office myself and making sure they knew darn well that if this guy tried to say he supported my kids they needed to laugh at him, but that's just me.

[brazen]

SSDI and SSI, are administered differently than food stamps and Medicaid.

 

SSDI and SSI take years to get. Food stamps and Medicaid he could get within 30-45 days. For those they require custody papers and proof from the school that they live with him at his address. IF he collects Medicaid on them, the state will come after YOU for a medical support order.

 

It is fraud if they live with you, and he collects benefits on them.

 

Personally I wouldn't give him that information. Why can't he go work?

[crod07]

If he gets SSDI, then, yes, your kids are eligible for a benefit on his behalf. I had the opposite problem, he DID NOT declare he had a child to support, so they were quite surprised when I showed up. Well, probably not, because I'm sure they see it often.

 

You still don't have to give him their SSNs. If you can find out he is receiving SSDI, you can go down and file yourself.

[548ficoNtexas]

Do NOT give him their SS #'s. Once you find out he has been approved for SSDI you then file an application for your children and they will draw a check until 18 or graduate high school. Go to SS website and click on the disability tab. You will fill out the applications for them and the check will come to your address or direct deposited into your bank, their bank whaever. I was approved for disability when my daughter was 17 so she didn't draw it for long but since her deadbeat "sperm donor" never paid child support I used most of her check for her car payment, insurance etc and gave her a nice monthly allowance.

[namars]

My ex got this & the kids received $10, yes, $10 a month each because he had never paid much into the system. When my son finished high school my daughter got my son's part & about a year ago for some unknown reason the state started garnishing the ex's check for the $15000 in back support he owes.

 

When I saw how little they were going to receive from SS that's when I threw in the towel on the child support. I had been working through our local prosecutor's child support division for about 10 years.

 

When he applied, his caseworker called me at work at an agreed upon time to get the info on the kids. I would never give him their SS#'s or copies of birth certificates.

 

When the ex started calling the kids this past summer wanting them to go to the courthouse & sign off on the back support he owes, wanting me to hire a lawyer to get the back support dropped, etc. the kids & I agreed to stop all contact. I don't blame you for not going after child support. When I think about the amount I've collected from support vs the BS I've had to put up with, totally not worth it.

[mdw2006]

SSDI is very hard, and I do mean hard to get and they are very strict on what you can and cannot have. But having kids and not paying child support can open another can of worms that can mean trouble.

 

Doesn't seem that way around here, it seems like people get it for every reason under the sun.

[orangecrush]

Am I crazy in thinking that a parent can request a copy of a minor's birth certificate and Social Security Card from the proper agencies? Regardless of being custodial parent.

Edited December 29, 2011 by orangecrush

[beli]

Am I crazy in thinking that a parent can request a copy of a minor's birth certificate and Social Security Card from the proper agencies? Regardless of being custodial parent.

Nope you're not crazy. I think you can also. Though, I do think Cs has to be court ordered before SSdi will release funds to the kids, or in 548ficoNtexas case, living with the parent when they apply for their child. (I could be wrong on that though) Would be best to call and ask regarding that.

Edited December 29, 2011 by beli

[Battle_of_Evermore]

SSDI is very hard, and I do mean hard to get and they are very strict on what you can and cannot have. But having kids and not paying child support can open another can of worms that can mean trouble.

 

Doesn't seem that way around here, it seems like people get it for every reason under the sun.

 

I live in Ohio, and it's near impossible to get. A friend of mine is autistic and his mental age is about 12 at best was denied once for SSDI and Medicade. Well, SSDI said that he wasn't disabled enough for SSDI. Medicade denied him because he has a trust fund and a couple other things. I was denied twice for SSDI because they told me that I wasn't diabled enough. What gets me is someone else I know gets it because she gets mild panic attacks if she works.

[dawniedawn67]

What gets me is someone else I know gets it because she gets mild panic attacks if she works.

 

 

That's why my ex gets it - he's a "recovered" drug addict ( ) and working would give him panic attacks and cause him to relapse.

 

[sirrowan]

You misunderstand. He wants to do that so he can "pretend" that they live with him.

 

There is no court ordered cs. Perhaps I need to remedy that......

 

 

So....you're asking if you should aid him in defrauding the government?

 

Personally, I'd be calling the welfare office myself and making sure they knew darn well that if this guy tried to say he supported my kids they needed to laugh at him, but that's just me.

No I am not asking if I should aid him in defrauding blah blah blah. I was merely pointing out what great person he is.

[beli]

What gets me is someone else I know gets it because she gets mild panic attacks if she works.

 

 

That's why my ex gets it - he's a "recovered" drug addict ( ) and working would give him panic attacks and cause him to relapse.

 

I know two people that got it for depression where I live. To be honest the 1st one really has issues other than his depression. The 2nd one is just lazy. Yet I have back issues where I'm not suppose to lift more then 5lbs. Also have issues with my knees not sure what tho.. I do know that years ago doctors told me I was getting arthritis in my knees. I'm practically deaf 90% in one ear and 60% in another.. (probably more by now) and they still denied me as well. They say because I've been able to work all this time, I'm not disabled enough. I can't count how many times I've messed up my back because I'm doing more then what I should be doing.. but that's another issue/rant I won't get into.

Edited December 29, 2011 by beli

[sirrowan]

What gets me is someone else I know gets it because she gets mild panic attacks if she works.

 

 

That's why my ex gets it - he's a "recovered" drug addict ( ) and working would give him panic attacks and cause him to relapse.

 

 

This is what I'm dealing with. If he went to jail for not paying child support he would likely die from withdrawal of methadone. I'm just not up to killing my children's sperm donor......

[sirrowan]

So I think I'm kind of understanding how this works. He would potentially get more money, especially if he doesn't disclose his kids. I think I'm making a trip to the child support office today.....

[beli]

So I think I'm kind of understanding how this works. He would potentially get more money, especially if he doesn't disclose his kids. I think I'm making a trip to the child support office today.....

I still don't see how they can pay you if it was not court ordered CS.. but it doesnt hurt to ask.

[dawniedawn67]

This is what I'm dealing with. If he went to jail for not paying child support he would likely die from withdrawal of methadone. I'm just not up to killing my children's sperm donor......

 

 

1) You'd be amazed at how well they take care of junkies in the prison system - both officially and unofficially.

 

2) I've actually gotten to be good friends with DS's bio-dad, but his adoptive father? I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire, unless I'd been drinking Everclear the night before. But that's just me.

[sirrowan]

I called SS and they told me that if he can get SSDI, then I'll get money and it doesn't affect his benefits. If he gets SSI, I'm screwed no matter what.

 

He won't call me back or respond to my texts now.....