ID CHECK

[BBQ123]

Many of you have stated that you are OK with showing your ID.

 

Thus, I challenge those of you who have said this to do the following: show me your ID. Scan your ID and reply to this post with the picture attached.

[Uncle Leo]

Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn. Zzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Authorization]

Scan and post your credit card

Along with your ID, please post both.

[Guest Authorization]

Extra points for posting both.

[centex]

Many of you have stated that you are OK with showing your ID.

 

Thus, I challenge those of you who have said this to do the following: show me your ID. Scan your ID and reply to this post with the picture attached.

 

nice apples to oranges red herring...

 

Showing ID to a clerk to complete a transaction is NOWHERE near analogous to putting one's personal information in a web-based forum for millions upon millions of prospective views.

 

Maybe when you enter the real world, you will see the EPIC FAIL of your attempt....

[Guest Authorization]

ID to complete a credit card transaction is prohibited.

[centex]

ID to complete a credit card transaction is prohibited.

 

Continental...what in the hell does that have to do with BBQ's post?

 

Oh wait...just as with all of your user names through the months/years, you spout crap without bothering to read the thread.

[GEORGE]

@ Centex

 

I don't think you'll get a reply to that.

...ANOTHER 1/2 CENT WORTH???

[Uncle Leo]

@ Centex

 

I don't think you'll get a reply to that.

...ANOTHER 1/2 CENT WORTH???

Yeah, too many replies cheapens the value.

[GEORGE]

@ Centex

 

I don't think you'll get a reply to that.

...ANOTHER 1/2 CENT WORTH???

 

 

 

I'm not understanding GEORGE.

 

Don't get me wrong . I HATE being asked for ID because it is a violation and I've reported merchants for that as well.

I just won't post my ID or CC on here because it's a public forum. That is all.

 

LOOK AT THE TWO PARTS IN RED

 

2 + 2 = 4

Edited January 6, 2010 by GEORGE

[GEORGE]

@ Centex

 

I don't think you'll get a reply to that.

...ANOTHER 1/2 CENT WORTH???

 

 

 

I'm not understanding GEORGE.

 

Don't get me wrong . I HATE being asked for ID because it is a violation and I've reported merchants for that as well.

I just won't post my ID or CC on here because it's a public forum. That is all.

 

LOOK AT THE TWO PARTS IN RED

 

2 + 2 = 4

 

 

Oh so you were talking to Centex.. I see.

That one doesn't like anything that is posted here...BUT HAS TO PUT IN 1/2 CENT WORTH ALL THE TIME

 

(not even 2 cents worth)

 

QUITE A FEW COME HERE AND PUT IN THEIR 1/2 CENT WORTH (not that I can see all the CRAP)

Edited January 6, 2010 by GEORGE

[Uncle Leo]

Complaining about "post police", indeed. Apparently, only approved posts and points-of-view are allowed. The irony is too much.

 

Oh, and "half worth" of 2 cents is 1 cent... not "1/2 cent".

[Grizzly Bear]

Many of you have stated that you are OK with showing your ID.

 

Thus, I challenge those of you who have said this to do the following: show me your ID. Scan your ID and reply to this post with the picture attached.

 

nice apples to oranges red herring...

 

Showing ID to a clerk to complete a transaction is NOWHERE near analogous to putting one's personal information in a web-based forum for millions upon millions of prospective views.

 

Maybe when you enter the real world, you will see the EPIC FAIL of your attempt....

 

 

Read the thread entitled, "Commercial about ID"

[Grizzly Bear]

Many of you have stated that you are OK with showing your ID.

 

Thus, I challenge those of you who have said this to do the following: show me your ID. Scan your ID and reply to this post with the picture attached.

 

nice apples to oranges red herring...

 

Showing ID to a clerk to complete a transaction is NOWHERE near analogous to putting one's personal information in a web-based forum for millions upon millions of prospective views.

 

Maybe when you enter the real world, you will see the EPIC FAIL of your attempt....

 

 

Read the thread entitled, "Commercial about ID"

[BBQ123]

So people have admitted that there is a risk to letting other people view your identification... yet they will gladly show it at point of sale.

 

What if the clerk notices you buying a 7-day fish feeder at the pet store, figures you'll be on vacation soon, and uses the address on your ID to steal from your house while you are gone the next weekend?

 

Now, for those who suggest posting a scan of my credit card. Part of the rules for zero-liability protection are that you must reasonably safeguard your card information. Thus, posting it on this forum would be a violation of my end of the agreement.

[centex]

So people have admitted that there is a risk to letting other people view your identification... yet they will gladly show it at point of sale.

 

What if the clerk notices you buying a 7-day fish feeder at the pet store, figures you'll be on vacation soon, and uses the address on your ID to steal from your house while you are gone the next weekend?

 

Now, for those who suggest posting a scan of my credit card. Part of the rules for zero-liability protection are that you must reasonably safeguard your card information. Thus, posting it on this forum would be a violation of my end of the agreement.

 

you really do have to stretch for a comeback after you get called on your bullcrap...

 

But, for the sake of responding to your relative non-event, when I DO elect to show my ID, the address is not visible. As a second response, they will have to figure out how to get past the alarm. Once the alarm goes off, they then have to elude my armed neighbors (we are all staunch supporters of the right to defend ourselves and believe that gun control means hitting that which you have aimed at when you point the gun to squeeze the trigger).

 

I have to wonder if you worry about the TSA agent at the airport selling your information after you show ID at the security screening. Same principle...and at least in THAT red herring scenario, they KNOW you are going to be out of town.

[Grizzly Bear]

So people have admitted that there is a risk to letting other people view your identification... yet they will gladly show it at point of sale.

 

What if the clerk notices you buying a 7-day fish feeder at the pet store, figures you'll be on vacation soon, and uses the address on your ID to steal from your house while you are gone the next weekend?

 

Now, for those who suggest posting a scan of my credit card. Part of the rules for zero-liability protection are that you must reasonably safeguard your card information. Thus, posting it on this forum would be a violation of my end of the agreement.

 

you really do have to stretch for a comeback after you get called on your bullcrap...

 

But, for the sake of responding to your relative non-event, when I DO elect to show my ID, the address is not visible. As a second response, they will have to figure out how to get past the alarm. Once the alarm goes off, they then have to elude my armed neighbors (we are all staunch supporters of the right to defend ourselves and believe that gun control means hitting that which you have aimed at when you point the gun to squeeze the trigger).

 

I have to wonder if you worry about the TSA agent at the airport selling your information after you show ID at the security screening. Same principle...and at least in THAT red herring scenario, they KNOW you are going to be out of town.

 

 

It's not all about you.

[LBCS]

I have to wonder if you worry about the TSA agent at the airport selling your information after you show ID at the security screening. Same principle...and at least in THAT red herring scenario, they KNOW you are going to be out of town.

 

Yes, because the Walmart cashier has undergone the same extensive criminal, credit and background checks as a Transportation Security Officer(TSO), aka screener

 

Job requirements for a TSO include:

• Demonstrate physical fitness to work on a daily basis without the aid of medication.
  
• Work irregular hours and shifts, including holidays and weekends.
  
• Pass drug and alcohol screening tests.
  
  
• Pass background, criminal and credit checks.
  

[radi8]

I have to wonder if you worry about the TSA agent at the airport selling your information after you show ID at the security screening. Same principle...and at least in THAT red herring scenario, they KNOW you are going to be out of town.

 

Yes, because the Walmart cashier has undergone the same extensive criminal, credit and background checks as a Transportation Security Officer(TSO), aka screener

 

Job requirements for a TSO include:

• Demonstrate physical fitness to work on a daily basis without the aid of medication.
  
• Work irregular hours and shifts, including holidays and weekends.
  
• Pass drug and alcohol screening tests.
  
  
• Pass background, criminal and credit checks.
  

 

Aww, c'mon now. They DO have to pass a "personality test".

I wonder how many fail the "do you think it's OK to steal from your employer as long as you don't get caught" question?

 

Um.....uh.... I'd like to use a lifeline, Regis.

[centex]

I have to wonder if you worry about the TSA agent at the airport selling your information after you show ID at the security screening. Same principle...and at least in THAT red herring scenario, they KNOW you are going to be out of town.

 

Yes, because the Walmart cashier has undergone the same extensive criminal, credit and background checks as a Transportation Security Officer(TSO), aka screener

 

Job requirements for a TSO include:

• Demonstrate physical fitness to work on a daily basis without the aid of medication.
  
• Work irregular hours and shifts, including holidays and weekends.
  
• Pass drug and alcohol screening tests.
  
  
• Pass background, criminal and credit checks.
  

 

Aww, c'mon now. They DO have to pass a "personality test".

I wonder how many fail the "do you think it's OK to steal from your employer as long as you don't get caught" question?

 

Um.....uh.... I'd like to use a lifeline, Regis.

 

The criminal background check does nothing to assess one's propensity for criminality. It is looking for convictions (and whatever arrests might show up on the NCIC check performed by TSA contractors). Credit checks...again, that is done in the beginning, but not on a regular basis. I could also point you to any number of criminals who had good credit and clear histories prior to being caught and subsequently charged with criminal conduct.

 

And, as case in point, I would also point to the increasing number of cops being charged with criminal conduct...some of which is also alcohol and drug related (since the drug/alcohol checks were also referenced here).

 

If someone is going to be tempted, it does not always mean that they have been arrested in the past.

 

My other point is that availability of the information does not mean that it WILL be abused. The point I attempted to make is that the potential for abuse exists at the same rate, whether at the cash register or the security screening line. And if one is so truly paranoid about showing ID, then the same level of paranoia should exist at a line where a greater argument exists that the rights of the individual are being stripped away...

 

As a final point on TSA checks making for better employees...anyone remember Newark? Yeah, those higher standards really get a better employee at the line...

[radi8]

The criminal background check does nothing to assess one's propensity for criminality.

 

Nope. But they do a wonderful job of weeding out the ones that have previously been nailed for it.

According to you, Background checks are completely worthless and there is no point in running one?

[centex]

The criminal background check does nothing to assess one's propensity for criminality.

 

Nope. But they do a wonderful job of weeding out the ones that have previously been nailed for it.

According to you, Background checks are completely worthless and there is no point in running one?

 

Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a DumpMart checker does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification. Given the problems with TSA around the country, I would certainly not want to claim that they have a better screening and that one should feel safer as a result...

 

Background checks that are PROPERLY conducted can help mitigate risks. No background check is going to eliminate all sources of problem nor identify problem employees. I know of several cases with judges and attorneys who had their mid-life crisis and dipped into IOLTA funds to pay for coke, cars and titty bars before eventually being tagged with misapplication of fiduciary property. I've also been involved with a case of a racetrack employee who had to undergo financial background checks every year but who still managed to hit the track for about $750,000.00 in theft losses that were still within the statute of limitations for prosecution.

[radi8]

Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a DumpMart checker does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification.

 

Of course it doesn't preclude misuse. It's merely one additional safeguard, that may or may not work in every case.

Then again, showing your ID does not preclude misuse either, it's merely one additional safeguard, no?

[BBQ123]

I still haven't seen any IDs posted.

[GEORGE]

Nope. My argument in this case is that the fact that a TSA (in)operative screener having gone through a background check that might be deeper than a

DumpMart checker

does nothing in terms of precluding the screener from mis-using the information on identification.

 

Of course it doesn't preclude misuse. It's merely one additional safeguard, that may or may not work in every case.

Then again, showing your ID does not preclude misuse either, it's merely one additional safeguard, no?

So much love in the post there

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I had a TSA guy look at my ID with a flashlight for like 2 minutes

 

Asked why it was so old looking

 

Duhhhhhhhhhh IT WAS RENEWED BY US MAIL (no new picture)

 

I'll make sure I get a new picture when you pay for it...you have the money???

 

I guess you don't live in this state

 

Never seen anybody else with a US MAIL RENEWED DRIVER'S LICENSE THAT LIVES IN THIS STATE???

 

That is amazing...