Woman Allgedly Raped In A Mall Bathroom...

[dang]

again, its not evene that deep. Sometimes ppl wanna cry and be left alone...let 'em have that...maybe some of the folks that love to be all up in the business can go ask what's wrong.

 

 

I did not say I would ask WHY the person was crying, I said I would ask if the person was okay. A simple "yes" or "leave me the f alone" and I'm on my way.

 

When my coworker stroked out at work it took us a few minutes to realize what was going on because it presented as her just sitting at her desk and crying. It's when we asked "are you okay?" and her answer was complete gibberish that we knew something was wrong and got help right away.

 

Maybe it's working in the medical field - your first response is to assess the situation and see what action, if any, needs to be taken.

 

coworker vs. stranger...not comparable.

[Fallon]

ya get killed trying to be a good samaritan these days...

 

either that, or sued...

So the solution then is to become callous, oblivious, and uncaring? Consider it a rhetorical question. Doing the right thing, and sticking to your convictions, or what you know is right, is often not the easiest path.

 

Nothing callous, oblivious or uncaring about it.

I fully understand self-preservation, but I think it's not all or nothing. I think in some cases, what you all are saying is, you can't see the forest through the trees.

[dang]

ya get killed trying to be a good samaritan these days...

 

either that, or sued...

So the solution then is to become callous, oblivious, and uncaring? Consider it a rhetorical question. Doing the right thing, and sticking to your convictions, or what you know is right, is often not the easiest path.

 

Nothing callous, oblivious or uncaring about it.

I fully understand self-preservation, but I think it's not all or nothing. I think in some cases, what you all are saying is, you can't see the forest through the trees.

 

I'm not much of a tree watcher, forest either...so I guess I'm not really trying to see either.

[hlburi]

ya get killed trying to be a good samaritan these days...

 

either that, or sued...

So the solution then is to become callous, oblivious, and uncaring? Consider it a rhetorical question. Doing the right thing, and sticking to your convictions, or what you know is right, is often not the easiest path.

 

Nothing callous, oblivious or uncaring about it.

I fully understand self-preservation, but I think it's not all or nothing. I think in some cases, what you all are saying is, you can't see the forest through the trees.

 

 

no...what I'm saying is, I can't see if alleged helpless victim has a brass knuckle/Colt .45/Stun Gun hidden away ready to use it on me if I come to "help"

[Fallon]

I'm not much of a tree watcher, forest either...so I guess I'm not really trying to see either.

Genovese syndrome. Like the monseigneur said in The Bookdock Saints, "we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

[dang]

I'm not much of a tree watcher, forest either...so I guess I'm not really trying to see either.

Genovese syndrome. Like the monseigneur said in The Bookdock Saints, "we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

 

Yes, yes...you are so right.

[Islandgal]

ya get killed trying to be a good samaritan these days...

 

either that, or sued...

So the solution then is to become callous, oblivious, and uncaring? Consider it a rhetorical question. Doing the right thing, and sticking to your convictions, or what you know is right, is often not the easiest path.

 

Nothing callous, oblivious or uncaring about it.

I fully understand self-preservation, but I think it's not all or nothing. I think in some cases, what you all are saying is, you can't see the forest through the trees.

 

 

no...what I'm saying is, I can't see if alleged helpless victim has a brass knuckle/Colt .45/Stun Gun hidden away ready to use it on me if I come to "help"

 

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

[dang]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

[hlburi]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

 

 

and she probably doesn't have any insurance, so now she either has to pay these bills or her credit will be ruined...

 

Cuz, probably your creditors don't care that you were trying to be a good samaritan...

Edited April 22, 2008 by hlburi

[Fallon]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

[dang]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

I dunno...maybe she could have asked to be anonymous...did she actually go over to them? I dunno...

 

So sure, it depends on perspective, but rest assured I'm not trynna catch a cap for somebody I don't know, and I don't expect anyone to do so for me.

[TxQuiltGirl]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

I dunno...maybe she could have asked to be anonymous...did she actually go over to them? I dunno...

 

So sure, it depends on perspective, but rest assured I'm not trynna catch a cap for somebody I don't know, and I don't expect anyone to do so for me.

 

 

It's refreshing to know that if someone witnesses your attempted/actual murder you don't actually expect them to do anything for you.

[Islandgal]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

why shouldn't she sleep at night? maybe she would be too worried about being judged by others?

[cinderella]

yep, pretty much.

 

It's sad, isn't it?

It is, actually. Thankfully there are some people still out there who aren't so shortsighted and/or selfish. We see them every so often on the news.

 

Maybe it is part selfishness, but also I think somewhat cowardice.

 

Living in fear is no way to live. Letting some bad guys (or gals) run herd on you, even if that means you witness something terrible but won't get involved, is still letting them control you.

 

There is a time to mind your business (mom/dad spanking kid) and a time to get involved.

 

Assuming the odds are not something crazy, like 5 guys on one, I'll take my chances. If it gets physical, maybe I will go down, maybe I won't. But I am aiming for their arteries if I get to my knife in time and am taking someone's spleen with me.

 

It is amazing how many folks will step-up once one person stands up.

[hlburi]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

why shouldn't she sleep at night? maybe she would be too worried about being judged by others?

 

 

Frankly, I don't blame people at all for not wanting to get involved these days.

[Jen23514]

Assuming the odds are not something crazy, like 5 guys on one, I'll take my chances. If it gets physical, maybe I will go down, maybe I won't. But I am aiming for their arteries if I get to my knife in time and am taking someone's spleen with me.

 

you have street cred

[Fallon]

Maybe it is part selfishness, but also I think somewhat cowardice.

 

Living in fear is no way to live. Letting some bad guys (or gals) run herd on you, even if that means you witness something terrible but won't get involved, is still letting them control you.

 

There is a time to mind your business (mom/dad spanking kid) and a time to get involved.

 

Assuming the odds are not something crazy, like 5 guys on one, I'll take my chances. If it gets physical, maybe I will go down, maybe I won't. But I am aiming for their arteries if I get to my knife in time and am taking someone's spleen with me.

 

It is amazing how many folks will step-up once one person stands up.

I agree with you 100%. I just didn't take my original reply far enough.

 

K, I wouldn't sleep, were it me. Not because of worrying about other people "judging me". My own disappointment and judgment of myself would be quite enough to keep me occupied for a good long time.

Edited April 22, 2008 by Fallon

[dang]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

I dunno...maybe she could have asked to be anonymous...did she actually go over to them? I dunno...

 

So sure, it depends on perspective, but rest assured I'm not trynna catch a cap for somebody I don't know, and I don't expect anyone to do so for me.

 

 

It's refreshing to know that if someone witnesses your attempted/actual murder you don't actually expect them to do anything for you.

 

Um...if i was murdered, i'd be dead...soooooo...yea, i wouldn't be expecting much.

 

Look people, I'm not saying that if you witness something not to come forward or call the cops, but what I AM saying is that I'm not gonna be all in the middle of it and catch a bullet, fist or whatever else for someone...I'm all for going to GET help, but actually being that help no thanks...so yes, I'm an awful awful person.

Edited April 22, 2008 by dang

[Jen23514]

Um...if i was murdered, i'd be dead...soooooo...yea, i wouldn't be expecting much.

 

i'm sorry, but

[Islandgal]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

I dunno...maybe she could have asked to be anonymous...did she actually go over to them? I dunno...

 

So sure, it depends on perspective, but rest assured I'm not trynna catch a cap for somebody I don't know, and I don't expect anyone to do so for me.

 

 

It's refreshing to know that if someone witnesses your attempted/actual murder you don't actually expect them to do anything for you.

 

Um...if i was murdered, i'd be dead...soooooo...yea, i wouldn't be expecting much.

 

 

 

I'd sure as hell come back and haunt the hell outta the person that took me out though..

[hlburi]

it might not even be that...a little while ago, local story ran on a woman that pulled into her apartment complex, only to see a man beating up his GF in parking lot, she did the right thing, called the police....days later GF drops charges on dude,dude gets out, lady gets harrassed by dude several times, and then is later found with the crap beaten outta her,several bones broken...

 

But she did the right thing, so now its a happy, happy world...

If she hadn't called the police, and dude killed his GF rather than just beat both of them, would she be able to sleep at night? I guess it depends on your perspective.

 

I dunno...maybe she could have asked to be anonymous...did she actually go over to them? I dunno...

 

So sure, it depends on perspective, but rest assured I'm not trynna catch a cap for somebody I don't know, and I don't expect anyone to do so for me.

 

 

It's refreshing to know that if someone witnesses your attempted/actual murder you don't actually expect them to do anything for you.

 

Um...if i was murdered, i'd be dead...soooooo...yea, i wouldn't be expecting much.

 

Look people, I'm not saying that if you witness something not to come forward or call the cops, but what I AM saying is that I'm not gonna be all in the middle of it and catch a bullet, fist or whatever else for someone...I'm all for going to GET help, but actually being that help no thanks...so yes, I'm an awful awful pereson.

 

 

no you are not. And I agree, call the cops or whatever, but actually getting involved... It would entirely depend on the situation, but again I will say, given the climate these days, I can fully understand why people don't get involved.

[dang]

DUPPIE!

[hlburi]

Um...if i was murdered, i'd be dead...soooooo...yea, i wouldn't be expecting much.

 

i'm sorry, but

 

 

+1

[dang]

no you are not. And I agree, call the cops or whatever, but actually getting involved... It would entirely depend on the situation, but again I will say, given the climate these days, I can fully understand why people don't get involved.

Chile please! You really think I believe that???

 

I just wanted to say it for them is all...if I can't help by taking a beat down for someone, at least I could 'help' by being an awful person for another.

Edited April 22, 2008 by dang

[deluxmary2000]

I'm not much of a tree watcher, forest either...so I guess I'm not really trying to see either.

Genovese syndrome. Like the monseigneur said in The Bookdock Saints, "we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

 

 

You are a Boondock-Saints-quoting-blue shirt. You know that's my favorite movie, and you know I had to have been dying to use that quote, and you had to go and steal my thunder

 

Keeping your head down and living in fear is no way to live. If I see someone in trouble, with very little exceptions, I'm going to try to help. ESPECIALLY in the situation that started this whole discussion (a woman on the floor in a public restroom crying). I think the chances of being sued or hurt in that situation are VERY slim, and I'd be willing to take that chance. If she told me to F*** off and mind my own business, then no big deal.